Originally Posted by fmj
The problem is NOT JUST Owebummer. The problem is systemic. Almost EVERY POS in DC is complicit in the destruction of this nation...ALL OF THEM!
So lets quit the BS blame game, the us vs them BS and start finding solutions.
...because the status quo (the right blaming the left and vice versa whilst we sink into the morass) of the past 3 - 4 decades is what has brought us to these dire straits!
Couldn't agree more but the more I talk with just the normal ole folks I run into day to day, there is a general dispair and lack of conviction. And it will take conviction just to weather what is coming when it finally hits the fan. This country was founded by a small minority (>20%) who stood up for personal freedom while putting everything on the line. I just don't see that level of conviction in 2% much less 20% of people I know or meet. And these are educated, honest, hard working, people with the most to lose.
It's scary, disgusting, and actually just plain hard to believe. I can't imagine my fellow Americans thinking like this in the 50's when I was a child learning Amercian values at home, school, church, and in the playground. We played with more conviction that most adults, I run into on a daily basis, live. Luckily I work in the oil & gas pipeline industry and thank God, this is a almost homogenous group of hard charging, down to earth, God fearing, gun toting, honest, Americans. My wife calls it "bubbaville" and I am damned proud to be a member whatever it is called or thought of. There are many other groups like this and perhaps that is where the conviction will come from. Groups of like minded Americans, with a commonality in whatever form, that will come together to turn this country around.
But unfortunately it appears this will not happen in the ballot box as I truly believe that honest elections are a thing of the past. A second grader can hack into most secure systems so do you really think our election results are as voted? I don't, not one bit, anymore. But I see this like "Let's Make A Deal". Door #1
- Everyone wakes up one morning and realises that America has been taken over by corruption and must immediately embrace the morals and creeds that our founding fathers spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. We become what we are meant to be as a country. Door #2
- those who refuse to abide by the morals and creeds that our founding fathers spelled out in the Declaration of Independence agree to voluntarily sit it out while true Americans bring this country back from the edge of the abyss. Yeah, right. Door #3
- take a guess what is behind this door? Do I really have to spell it out?
So now I'm sounding crazy. But in my small world, this is exactly what guys talk about when we are out in a field somewhere, installing and maintaining something real that helps this nation run, while working an honest days work and not expecting any handouts, and being resolute in our knowledge of what made this country great at one time, and unless reimbraced, will just be a meaningless ideal that will fade with time (hows that for a run on sentance?). But the more I think about how this country is heading, no matter how many of us on this forum and others like it know what has to happen in Washington, we are now the minority and Door #3 is looming in our future. That sucks.