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Incorrect. The post office is a pseudo-governmental agency. It is a semi-independent agency which is run under the oversight and approval of Congress. Any substantive changes must be approved by Congress. It hardly makes it an effective agency.

It would very much be a similar system to what Obamacare lays out. I only bring it up to clarify the previous post. Let's not get too far afield here.


Sorry, but you are wrong. It is run by private business. The government is out of it.
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Incorrect. The post office is a pseudo-governmental agency. It is a semi-independent agency which is run under the oversight and approval of Congress. Any substantive changes must be approved by Congress. It hardly makes it an effective agency.

It would very much be a similar system to what Obamacare lays out. I only bring it up to clarify the previous post. Let's not get too far afield here.
ScottA...Thank you for the clarification and I apologize to you and CT for the name calling. Won't happen again.

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My point is that there is not 1 single example of Government intervention improving the delivery or quality of a service or commodity.

Government mail delivery = poor service and lost revenue
Automotive cafe standards = lighter vehicles and higher fatality rates
EPA Standards = prohibitive costs for energy and products putting American business at a competitive disadvantage.

I don't know what line of work in? I've spent the last 10 years handling the dollars and risk for a Commercial General Contractor running multiple million dollar projects and the last year doing the same thing for a small but very successful commercial Electrical firm.

I can tell you first hand that Government regulation does nothing to protect our clients or the public. The clients engineers who design the building working hand in hand with the trade professionals hired to execute the work is what makes Americas buildings safe and functional.

Ask anyone with experience dealing with Government building inspectors and they will tell you the same thing. These guys are no more than an ignorant annoyance that builders must deal with "and pay" handsomely for the privilege. It's no more than a "legal" organized crime extortion racket and the criminals get away with it because they work for the "self perpetuating" government.

We are fortunate that our industry of "on site" installation and management can not be outsourced but seeing the ridiculous hoops we jump through makes it very easy for me to understand why businesses who must compete with foreign labor do sent jobs overseas.

It's simple economics and until you grasp that, you are lost. I can only hope you do not get your way and suffer for it.

PS - OP, sorry for the thread hijack.

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I hope that I do "get my way" for the sake of the American people. (not to mention my health).
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The last thing this nation needs is a health care system run by a bunch of Washington bureaucrats. I hope you enjoy poor health, because under Hussein you'll be having a lot of it. I hope and pray the Democratic Party in this country takes a pasting this November, the likes of which have never been seen before.
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Just a note,if the federal government is in fact "out of" the postal service,but now is "into" health care,we clearly have an ass backwards,illegitimate and bastardized form of government from the one intended by our founders:

To establish post offices and post roads;
-Article I Section 8,US Constitution

The Constitution specifically directs the federal government to maintain the postal service.

But does not give the federal government the authority to run health care.

Welcome to the Peoples Demokratik Socialist Nanny State of Amerika.

Where the government does whatever it wants at the behest of the mob,despite being in direct contradiction to the laws that form it.

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A self-supporting government enterprise, the U.S. Postal Service is the only delivery service that reaches every address in the nation, 151 million residences, businesses and Post Office Boxes. The Postal Service receives no tax dollars for operating expenses, and relies on the sale of postage, products and services to fund its operations. With nearly 32,000 retail locations and the most frequently visited website in the federal government, usps.com, the Postal Service has annual revenue of more than $66 billion and delivers nearly 40 percent of the world’s mail. If it were a private sector company, the U.S. Postal Service would rank 35th in the 2011 Fortune 500. Black Enterprise and Hispanic Business magazines ranked the Postal Service as a leader in workforce diversity. The Postal Service has been named the Most Trusted Government Agency six consecutive years and the sixth Most Trusted Business in the nation by the Ponemon Institute.
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That's what they want you to think, but it's not true. Large corporations, insurances companies, and drug companies run the government; not the other way around.
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People in the medical profession, drug companies, and insurance companies are a bunch of legalized theives that must be stopped. I am enjoying poor health now because I can't afford insurance, much less pay for drugs and doctor's care. So, how will it be any different for me under President Obama?
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People in the medical profession, drug companies, and insurance companies are a bunch of legalized theives that must be stopped. I am enjoying poor health now because I can't afford insurance, much less pay for grugs and doctor's care. So, how will it be any different for me under President Obama?
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Oh, they'll be stopped all right. Doctors will be dropping out of the medical profession left and right if this train wreck isn't repealed by the Republicans next year. Would you become a doctor, and take on well into six figures in student loans, not to mention a 4 year internship, only to have a bunch of goons like Hussein control what you can do for your patients, and how much you can charge? You would have to be out of your mind. If you think you have to wait now to see a doctor or specialist, you'll be dead from whatever ails you before you get to see one under this abortion. Wake up!
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