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Old 06-01-2012, 01:16 PM   #21
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That's pretty much what I said: "….Vote your conscience, by all means, but also keep in mind…."
But come the morning after the votes are counted and the dust has settled, either Obama or Romney will be our president for the coming four years. The flavor of the SC for years, if not decades, will likely be decided during these four years. Romney isn't my personal choice either, but truth of the matter, a candidate that reflected all the Conservative values I would like to see in a president probably wouldn't be elected any any case. Ron Paul a case in point. I'm not denigrating anyones' decision as to who to vote for and I don't think for a second that anything I write will change anyone's thinking (or vote.)
I was just expressing my thoughts on the matter.
Agreed. At least Romney will have Republicans talking in his ear about what he better NOT do to this country. Instead of Barbara Boxer, Pelosi, Sheila JACKSON Lee, Schumer, et al. And you folks think Romney is worse than Obama? Really? I do understand conscience, deal with that all day every day. But four more years of Obama will either put us fully inside the door of social communism, or civil war. Neither of which will be any fun, even to those of us with massive weapons stocks. We need to shake the whole da*n tree but if Obama gets four more years, good luck even finding a tree of freedom in this country. And I get to talk to the Obama morons from time to time, and they still love his commi *ss. Really they do and they will vote him in again. I understand voting your conscience, but be ready for the result.
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That's pretty much what I said: "….Vote your conscience, by all means, but also keep in mind…."
But come the morning after the votes are counted and the dust has settled, either Obama or Romney will be our president for the coming four years. The flavor of the SC for years, if not decades, will likely be decided during these four years. Romney isn't my personal choice either, but truth of the matter, a candidate that reflected all the Conservative values I would like to see in a president probably wouldn't be elected any any case. Ron Paul a case in point. I'm not denigrating anyones' decision as to who to vote for and I don't think for a second that anything I write will change anyone's thinking (or vote.)
I was just expressing my thoughts on the matter.
That's fine. I agree with everything you said above. At the end of the day, Americans have to make a choice. Not Romney versus Obama, but whether or not they continue the make-believe nonsense of voting for the lesser of two evils.

There will never be a candidate anyone agrees with 100% of the time, but we can certainly do a whole lot better than the two clowns we'll be presented with in November. We can do better only if Americans want something better. It seems they don't. We'll get the government we ask for, tolerate and deserve.
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Please, please -- if you want Obama out, then vote for Romney. A vote for anyone else will simply be a vote for Obama. Make no mistake, Obama will win again if non-democrats vote for anyone besides Romney. He's not the best, but he's damn sure better than the peice of human excrement we have in office now. Want this country to turn into another communist nation like the old Russia? Simply vote for Obama.

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Soo, basically, we're going to give B.O. another term because we

can't figure out whom to unify under.



We've got 140,000,000 votes at our disposal,

he won in '08 with (69,456,897 actual vote count)

less than 70 million votes,less than half the votes

we have,
and we're just going to give the election

away to this rusty wingnut?

"What happened to the Delta House I used to know?"

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Please, please -- if you want Obama out, then vote for Romney.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. It is no longer about voting for someone but voting against someone else. We know we would be getting a turd if we won, but we figure it's a slightly less-stinky turd than the alternative.

Bootsdeal, I'm not picking on you - I'm sure you understand what's at stake and are doing what you think best to preserve it. But if all those citizens out there can't understand the constitution, have no grasp of the horrors of socialism/communism, have never taken a few minutes to study history or human nature, have done no introspection to see where they sit ideologically, or so badly want the wealth of others because they are too lazy or incompetent to earn it themselves, then there's no point in any of this; let this mother burn to the ground. I would rather see an abrupt total, catastrophic collapse than a segue into collectivism.
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Agreed.

Iv'e been asking people (neighbors and friends, white conservatives mostly) what their thoughts are on the upcoming election and to my horror, many of them say they aren't going to bother voting because it doesn't make a difference and both candidates are bad.

While I agree both candidates are bad, I can't see how anyone in their right mind would feel that NOT voting against OB is acceptable.

This is exactly the attitude that helped get us where we are.

Folks, try to give a little friendly encouragement to the millions of white conservatives that they need to vote. There's going to be (imo) a lot of voter fraud that we'll need to overcome this November. Millions of votes that should not have counted will be. Nearly all FOR OB.

bkt - your thoughts and your signature sum it up nicely for me.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the electoral college really choose the president?

That said, I'll be doing more research on Romney prior to November. I do believe Ron Paul would have been a better republican candidate. I found it amazing that both parties joined up to bash Paul this year. The fact that what he stands for is dangerous to both parties bank accounts was not lost on either group.

I like to understand the perspective of others, so I listen to radio programs from both the right and left. For months both sides constantly insulted Paul. It was disturbing. If Romney's as inconsistent as I've heard I don't think I could vote for him as president. Until I find something that changes my current opinions...
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the electoral college really choose the president?
Sure. We vote for electors, not the president. But electors are pledged to cast a vote for one candidate. A candidate needs to win 50%+1 of the electors in a state to win the whole state. (Maine and Nebraska, I think, don't have a winner-take-all system. All the other states do.)

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I do believe Ron Paul would have been a better republican candidate. I found it amazing that both parties joined up to bash Paul this year. The fact that what he stands for is dangerous to both parties bank accounts was not lost on either group.
RP wants to dismantle the Federal Reserve and throttle way back on the military industrial complex, among other things. These two systems enable a few people to become extremely wealthy and powerful at the expense of many others here and around the world. So no, he wasn't popular with the party chiefs or the media.
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How about, if we all vote the candidate the

NRA endorses? We have to somehow set a standard,

or B.O. is going to walk away with this thing.

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I am not as worried about osamaobama getting reeletced as I am who stays, and is elected to congress, the senate, and the house. If we control these three then the president is nothing more then a figure head.

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