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Old 05-31-2012, 04:51 PM   #11
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The question remains the same.

So who should we,

140 Million voters strong,

more voting power than both

major parties combined,

vote for ?

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The question remains the same.

So who should we,

140 Million voters strong,

more voting power than both

major parties combined,

vote for ?
I suspect most of those are already in your red states and are voting.

Like I said, they are sprinkled across the blue states and are a minority there.

Besides, Romney is no friend of gun rights. Check his record in Mass. and see.

When you put the RNC mantle on him, it wont change his spots or stripes.
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W T F are you talking about, "sprinkled"?

TOTAL VOTES in 2008

BY BOTH PARTIES: 129,000,000

That means LESS THAN 79,000,000

of those votes ELECTED OBAMA.


45% of American voters own guns. Out of a TOTAL population of

310,000,000 people, that's 140,000,000 GUN OWNERS

HELLOOO!



WE HAVE 140,000,000+ VOTES at our disposal.

That doesn't sound like a sprinkle to me.

It sounds more like a flood.

Now that, HOPEFULLY, we're on the same page,

whom should we vote for?

Just criticizing and bashing other candidates

IS NOT HELPING.

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bkt, I hear you!!! Believe me, if Ron Paul was a viable contender I would vote for him in a heart beat. I like most of what he stands for and believe that if he could get elected, he would change this country for the better. Unfortunately, at his point in the game, he can't get elected and a vote for Ron Paul is the same as a vote for a known Socialist. The reality is that we need to clean up the Senate and the House. With the right people in them, the president is, for the most part, a non-issue.

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bkt, I hear you!!! Believe me, if Ron Paul was a viable contender I would vote for him in a heart beat. I like most of what he stands for and believe that if he could get elected, he would change this country for the better. Unfortunately, at his point in the game, he can't get elected and a vote for Ron Paul is the same as a vote for a known Socialist. The reality is that we need to clean up the Senate and the House. With the right people in them, the president is, for the most part, a non-issue.
Respectfully, I disagree. A vote for Ron Paul or whomever you think is right for the job is just a vote for that person. When we start worrying about casting a vote against someone else, we get lost and we have problems.

Congress is a mess and always has been; that's been the plan since the beginning. But you're right - a congress comprised mostly of people who have read and really ascribe to the constitution is necessary for anything to really change.
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So...let me get this straight. You want me to vote for Mitt Romney, right?

Romney said:

"My Views Are Progressive."
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOlUt9mDmnE&feature=player_embedded

“I’m not running as the Republican view or a continuation of Republican values. That’s not what brings me to the race.”
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBH77ng4HLs&feature=player_embedded

“I think it’s very clear to people across the commonwealth my R doesn’t as much stand for Republican as it does for reform.”
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6whWpSbj-Q&feature=player_embedded

“It’s always a burden to have run with R for Republican after your name.”
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cmOMB1hG2M&feature=player_embedded

”I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.”
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Cw_QUrIuQ&feature=player_embedded

Romney supported that socialist mess called TARP. He appointed very liberal judges in Massachusetts. He created socialized health care in that state. He has a pretty extensive pro-abortion record. He signed a bill in 2004 to permanently ban "assault" weapons in Massachusetts.

And you want me to vote for Romney because otherwise a nasty liberal will be in office?!

"Romney is the Barack Obama of the GOP." -Selwyn Duke

You vote however you please. Allow me to do the same. And if Obama should retain office, please don't ever tell me I threw my vote away.

Anyone who considers him or herself a conservative...anyone who appreciates the constitution, the rule of law, and individual rights who votes for Mitt Romney out of fear that Obama will retain office

HAS THROWN THEIR VOTE AWAY AND BETRAYED EVERYTHING THEY CLAIM TO HOLD DEAR!

Screw that. We know the game: vote for the lesser of two evils. That game will continue until enough of us refuse to play. I won't play anymore.

Ron Paul 2012

(Yeah, I'll write in his name if I have to because he's the only one whose principles are those of a constitutional conservative.)
What bkt said.
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Apparently every Conservative voter would need his/her own party, since the spirit of compromise and the idea of 'greater good' seems to be dead. From all appearances this is the 'do-or-die' election for this country as we know it. Every dead person will vote, every nursing home patient is going to vote absentee ballot, every person with multiple identities is going to be at the polls come November and vote Democrat, same-day registering to vote, absentee ballots from the military mysteriously 'misplaced.'…and here we are griping because the presumed Republican candidate doesn't meet every requirement on our personal check-off sheet of our imaginary perfect candidate. Some even threaten to withhold their vote, or vote for Paul, just to make a statement of their displeasure of choice of candidate. Flash News! No one will make any note of votes thrown away. But one thing for sure. The Socialist/democrat party is organized. They don't care about anything but remaining in power to continue the 'Change' being foisted upon this country. Vote your conscience, by all means, but also keep in mind….'every vote counts' doesn't work if you vote for Mickey Mouse or anyone else not on the ballot.

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Apparently every Conservative voter would need his/her own party, since the spirit of compromise and the idea of 'greater good' seems to be dead. From all appearances this is the 'do-or-die' election for this country as we know it. Every dead person will vote, every nursing home patient is going to vote absentee ballot, every person with multiple identities is going to be at the polls come November and vote Democrat, same-day registering to vote, absentee ballots from the military mysteriously 'misplaced.'…and here we are griping because the presumed Republican candidate doesn't meet every requirement on our personal check-off sheet of our imaginary perfect candidate. Some even threaten to withhold their vote, or vote for Paul, just to make a statement of their displeasure of choice of candidate. Flash News! No one will make any note of votes thrown away. But one thing for sure. The Socialist/democrat party is organized. They don't care about anything but remaining in power to continue the 'Change' being foisted upon this country. Vote your conscience, by all means, but also keep in mind….'every vote counts' doesn't work if you vote for Mickey Mouse or anyone else not on the ballot.
Vote how you wish and let others do likewise.

For the record, it isn't that Romney doesn't meet every requirement on my personal check-off sheet. It's that he doesn't meet any requirement on my personal check-off sheet.

Like I said before, if you're OK playing the lesser-of-two-evils game some more, that's cool. Deal me out. I've had enough.
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If Ron Paul shows up on my ballett that is who gets my vote. If he is not on it then there is a box that say none of the above or something like that to put my check mark in. This lesser of two evils game has to stop and the only way for it to stop is that American people making a stand.

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Vote how you wish and let others do likewise.
That's pretty much what I said: "….Vote your conscience, by all means, but also keep in mind…."
But come the morning after the votes are counted and the dust has settled, either Obama or Romney will be our president for the coming four years. The flavor of the SC for years, if not decades, will likely be decided during these four years. Romney isn't my personal choice either, but truth of the matter, a candidate that reflected all the Conservative values I would like to see in a president probably wouldn't be elected any any case. Ron Paul a case in point. I'm not denigrating anyones' decision as to who to vote for and I don't think for a second that anything I write will change anyone's thinking (or vote.)
I was just expressing my thoughts on the matter.
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