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avordman 05-30-2012 03:36 PM

November 2012
November 2012 is going to be a pivotal month in the history of this great country and the lives of all those who love the hunting sports as well as those who use or collect firearms. We must get out and vote for the Republican candidate, whether we like him or not and believe me when I say that I understand that there are no stellar candidates out there to choose from. It has been said that there will be 30,000,000 Republican and Independant voters who will not vote this election due to their dissatisfaction with the choice of candidates. That is right, I said THIRTY MILLION. Those non-voters alone could decide this election. Regardlees of the old platitude that there is no such thing as a wasted vote, a vote for an Independant or a libertarian, or any other group outside of the two major parties is, at this point, a truly wasted voted. Sorry, but it's a fact.
The present administration wants to disarm this country's people and is in bed with the United Nations to do just that by buying into the mandates that the U.N. is trying to foist upon the free world. If Obama is re-elected and doesn't need to worry about re-election again, he will not care who he disenfranchises as long as he gets his way and can force his beliefs on OUR country. At this point, and whether we agree with them or not, we need to support the Republican party.

This is solely my opinion and is in no way associated with, or endorsed by, any other person or organization.

canebrake 05-30-2012 03:39 PM

Shoobee 05-30-2012 03:59 PM

The big swing states are currently Florida, Pa, Ohio, NC, Virginia, Wisc, and Colorado. Those are the states to watch.

There are a few more chickenfeed swing states as well -- Nev, Iowa, NH.

In the other states the race is already pretty much decided.

O has 217 and R has 191, which is actually pretty close.

A lot of Independents are going to be bothered that R has completely switched his positions compared with when he ran against Ted Kennedy for Senate, and when he was gov of Mass. Ergo can you trust anyone who flip-flops like that?? The running joke on SNL (Sat Nite Live) is that Romney-care really is Obama-care.

By the same token, it will be apparent to all the gullible Independents who believed the promises made by O on the economy where possible, so they may be looking for new promises from somewhere else, which is what R is promising. Yes we can has turned out to be no we didn't.

It will probably be a close election, maybe with another Florida moment, like Bush v Gore.

The demographics so far are fascinating.

O has the northeast, the great lakes, and the far west locked up. His really big states are Calif, NYS, ILL, Mich & Md.

R has the south, the plains, and the intermountain west locked up. His really big states are Tex, Ga, Ariz, Ind & Tenn.

The battleground states are splattered all across the national map though.

This looks like the American Civil War all over again.

I too believe everyone should register and get out to vote. The USA is a local democracy and a federal republic, and this only works if citizens actually take the time and make the effort to vote. The easiest way to vote is register for mail-in absentee ballot, if your state lets you do this. Otherwise you just need to go and stand in line, much as people hate to stand in lines.

therewolf 05-30-2012 04:04 PM

How about the

140 Million + voters who now own guns?

Combined, less than 130 Million people voted for B.O. and McCain

in the last presidential election.

WE have the power.


Shoobee 05-30-2012 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by therewolf (Post 819119)
How about the

140 Million + voters who now own guns?

Combined, less than 130 Million people voted for B.O. and McCain

in the last presidential election.

WE have the power.


That's another really good question. In states with high percentages of gun ownership, it could make a difference in those states. But in states like Calif and NYS where gun ownership is less than 25% in that case it would not. So it still comes down to the swing states. The RNC has already captured the states with large percentages of gun ownership.

Jim1611 05-30-2012 04:31 PM

November will be a time to make history no matter who wins. We all know how it will go if obama wins. If Romney wins and doesn't cut spending, repeal obama care, and shrink the size of the government he will make the following elections easy for the dems to win. I have a feeling he'll do this too.

bkt 05-30-2012 08:10 PM

So...let me get this straight. You want me to vote for Mitt Romney, right?

Romney said:

"My Views Are Progressive."

Im not running as the Republican view or a continuation of Republican values. Thats not what brings me to the race.

I think its very clear to people across the commonwealth my R doesnt as much stand for Republican as it does for reform.

Its always a burden to have run with R for Republican after your name.

I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.

Romney supported that socialist mess called TARP. He appointed very liberal judges in Massachusetts. He created socialized health care in that state. He has a pretty extensive pro-abortion record. He signed a bill in 2004 to permanently ban "assault" weapons in Massachusetts.

And you want me to vote for Romney because otherwise a nasty liberal will be in office?!

"Romney is the Barack Obama of the GOP." -Selwyn Duke

You vote however you please. Allow me to do the same. And if Obama should retain office, please don't ever tell me I threw my vote away.

Anyone who considers him or herself a conservative...anyone who appreciates the constitution, the rule of law, and individual rights who votes for Mitt Romney out of fear that Obama will retain office


Screw that. We know the game: vote for the lesser of two evils. That game will continue until enough of us refuse to play. I won't play anymore.

Ron Paul 2012

(Yeah, I'll write in his name if I have to because he's the only one whose principles are those of a constitutional conservative.)

Wiebelhaus 05-30-2012 08:16 PM

What bkt has said +1

therewolf 05-31-2012 03:45 PM

So we all need to have a candidate we can agree on,

or that rusty wingnut is going back into office by default.

Who's it going to be?

Shoobee 05-31-2012 04:20 PM

Didnt everyone in the RNC race step down by now?

So that leaves the lesser of two evils --

- Obama has experience now, looks good, gives great speeches, the world leaders love him

- Romney is new at this, flip flops a lot, dont know what he is really thinking, dont know what he will try to do

Which is the lesser of two evils? Not an easy question.

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