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Old 01-18-2014, 07:37 PM   #1
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This happened in Florida.
Note the no rental to white males.

http://www.usacarry.com/gun-rentals/



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Old 01-18-2014, 08:18 PM   #2
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strange stuff.

however......ugh......there is a gun range i go to occasionally that rents guns. the clientele that comes looking to rent guns had made me very nervous more than once. i have seen more than one "crash course" of gun operation given on the spot.

in fact, one time i chose to not enter the range with a person that they rented a gun to. the person they rented a gun obviously had NO, i mean NO experience with firearms and was even waving it around a bit in a "toy like" manner. i left and went another 20+ miles to another range.

i support that any gun range has the right to refuse to rent based on any situation that makes them feel the situation is unsafe for the shooter or others.

or at the least, there should perhaps be a policy that pairs a range officer with lone first time shooters.



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that ranges refusal to rent to white males could end up biting them in their butt if someone decides to bring a lawsuit against them. refusal to rent someone a gun should be done on a case by case basis. i completely understand their position, but i don't think their decison is the correct one.

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that ranges refusal to rent to white males could end up biting them in their butt if someone decides to bring a lawsuit against them. refusal to rent someone a gun should be done on a case by case basis. i completely understand their position, but i don't think their decison is the correct one.
yup. someone's always looking to make a buck off a lawsuit. this has the makings of a classic.

white folks have filed a few major lawsuits on discrimination in the past....and surprisingly won some of them....

discrimination based on race, sex, religion, etc is supposed to be intolerable. i believe some have called it.....racial profiling?
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yup. someone's always looking to make a buck off a lawsuit. this has the makings of a classic.

white folks have filed a few major lawsuits on discrimination in the last past....and surprisingly won some of them....

discrimination based on race, sex, religion, etc is supposed to be intolerable. i believe some have called it.....racial profiling?
i can fully understand a shop refusing someone a rental on certain grounds, like under the influence of drugs or alcohol or even if they appeared to be somewhat unhinged, but to make such a blanket refusal like they did, IMO could have consequences they may regret later on.

that just because it's only ever been a white male that committed suicide at a gun range is saying that no black or hispanic male never committed suidide with a gun. i think that would be false.
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that ranges refusal to rent to white males could end up biting them in their butt if someone decides to bring a lawsuit against them. refusal to rent someone a gun should be done on a case by case basis. i completely understand their position, but i don't think their decison is the correct one.
The policy is not to rent to white male Florida residents who come in ALONE.

Suicide folks don't want to mess up their home or be found by friends or loved ones which means its unlikely they would bring a friend if they planned on killing themselves.

I've no problem with a private business taking this precaution. Especially if it keeps gun rentals available for all of us who are occasionally in the market for a model we've never fired.

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i can fully understand a shop refusing someone a rental on certain grounds, like under the influence of drugs or alcohol or even if they appeared to be somewhat unhinged, but to make such a blanket refusal like they did, IMO could have consequences they may regret later on.

that just because it's only ever been a white male that committed suicide at a gun range is saying that no black or hispanic male never committed suidide with a gun. i think that would be false.
exactly. make the call on a case-by-case basis.....it should relate to actions, not skin color.

again, the correct word to use here is profiling.
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The whole system's upside down.

Get arrested? Everything they hand you on a silver

platter is FREE. Make THEM pay for their records search, when

they get booked and charged with a crime.

Why do we have to pay for our records search, on a CCW

permit, for instance, when a scum-low criminal gets it

automatically, for nothing?

They WON'T eliminate "Gun Free Zones" no matter how many

people die there. Here's a question: Is there a statistic for how many

folks have had shooting sprees at a gun range? THIS might prove

somebody's really insane; IMO, they are ALL sane enough, when they

choose to go to the Gun Free Zones.

Or how about stepping up monitoring our mentally ill? Seems this idea

never comes up, as they are reaching into our holsters, trunks and

safes, to grab more guns they don't own, from folks who not only

obey the law, but pay through the nose, for those who DON'T.

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Two of the three criteria for refusal to rent are race and sex? They may be trying to alleviate libility, but someone will sue them based on race/gender bias.

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Our local indoor range wont rent to anyone alone after a suicide. He does not discriminate so he is legal. I cant really blame him. It cost him when that happened. The range was down while it was being cleaned up plus the police took the pistol.



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