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WebleyFosbery38 03-20-2013 10:50 AM

New York Safe Act creates new Mason Dixon Line
 
All you have to do to see that NY is the most divided state in the United States of America is look at the link below of counties in NY that oppose Andy Coumos Safe Act .

http://www.nysaferesolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/5422_132452323603219_1376667127_n-800x615.jpg

I am a lifetime Upstate NY'er that is about sick of the Empire City trying to infect the rest of the state with its inner "Big Rotten Apple" drama. NY City isnt NY proper, never has been. Most of us above the Hudson new this but until we had a map that illuminated the division like this, it was speculative at best. The proof is in the map, those that own and occupy 95%+ of the State of New York dont agree with Albanizer Scrooge!

Im sure this same thing has happened in other states but Ive never seen it so clearly divided by county as this map does so well. The last time I saw a map that looked like this, it was showing the division of our nation over Slavery but even that wasnt this Black and White! The Mason Dixon line was a bit fuzzy, NY upstate Vs NY City is like the Berlin Wall.

Ive heard talk of National secession before but most create an unnavigable smattering due to spotty demographics, this is different. Everything above Westchester except Tompkins, (ironically home of Ithaca Firearms) is of one mindset on The Safe Act, everyone below is another. The same can be said for lots of subjects not just Guns.

Were pro Fracking, they are against. We believe in reasonable land management not government red tape and paid permission slips, smaller government and less services, Government should not compete with private companies for business, they need and we feed, all they supply us with is regulations and taxes.

It might be time to make NY City the 51st state. I'm not talking about us leaving, I'm saying its time to kick their asses out of our state and let them make their own! NYC may have the votes but we have everything they need to sustain life, food, water, NRG and Casino's. I spent 17 years in our National Guard and most of us would wave goodby to The Rotten Apple in a New York Minute! They have been tapping us all like a Maple tree too long (more like living organ donors).

What type of fight can they mount against us? They threw away most of their guns years ago and cant find anything upstate without a GPS and we dont even need to invade NYC, just cut them off. Trust me, their aint enough bottled water, Duracells and Zero Ho Ho's on the shelves to keep them going a week!

It sounds crazy but maybe its time, they are a State unto themselves, let them be that way! We are the Real NY, were not Upstate, were New York State! Im not talking war or revolutions, just annexation of a population that should be grateful for the favor. They can tax, regulate and meddle in other peoples business from the comfort of their own comfy city cause Albany is ours!

Any thoughts?

Vincine 03-20-2013 11:12 AM

The tax money flows from 'Down State' to the rest of the state, not from the rest of NYS to 'Down State'. I don't know how much of a loss the rest of NYS would have without the 'Down State' taxes. On the other hand, I don't know how much the rest of the state would save if it was cut loose from some of the 'Down State' inspired regulations.

dog2000tj 03-20-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincine (Post 1183439)
The tax money flows from 'Down State' to the rest of the state, not from the rest of NYS to 'Down State'. I don't know how much of a loss the rest of NYS would have without the 'Down State' taxes. On the other hand, I don't know how much the rest of the state would save if it was cut loose from some of the 'Down State' inspired regulations.

It's not how much the state would save from cutting NYC lose ... it's how much would NY State prosper ;)

twhessler 03-20-2013 02:29 PM

Easy does it fellas. There is quite a few of us hard working stiffs down here that absolutely hate what is going on !!

WebleyFosbery38 03-20-2013 02:59 PM

NY would survive, we have all the resources and few of the overcrowding issues or crime.

WNGMSTR 03-20-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dog2000tj (Post 1183467)
It's not how much the state would save from cutting NYC lose ... it's how much would NY State prosper ;)

Agreed, Freedom visa vi free markets always prosper.

dog2000tj 03-20-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by twhessler (Post 1183580)
Easy does it fellas. There is quite a few of us hard working stiffs down here that absolutely hate what is going on !!

not bashing, used to be one myself but I had to leave lest I become the next spree shooter :o

Sniper03 03-20-2013 04:17 PM

Webley,

I agree with you 100%. The same is true with the poor folks of Illinois. Chicago should be a state of its own and let them try to survive with out the funding coming from the good folks in the rest of the state. I would love to see them fold! As well as NYC. They already are in near bankruptcy as I understand it? The good citizens of NY need to form a strong alliance against those folks and take it to the poles as well. That is the problem with the United States today. It has become the United States of New York City, Chicago, LA and other cities who are in fluxed with minorities and those who survive on entitlements who will not vote for the states but who ever is feeding them the freebies!. Somehow we must change this. One way is shut off the gravy train!

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Vincine 03-20-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniper03 (Post 1183684)
. . .I agree with you 100%. The same is true with the poor folks of Illinois. . .etc.

The money flows the other way. It goes FROM the urban areas TO the rural areas, not the other way around.

Sniper03 03-20-2013 04:42 PM

Sorry I do not agree! Let the rural areas stop supporting commerce and taxes and then tell me that! The rural areas and people could survive with out them as they did in the past. But the folks in the cities wouldn't survive a month without rural America!

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