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Old 11-17-2011, 02:02 AM   #11
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If it dies it dies.
I would rather have the States have control of CC.
If the Government gives you something they can take it away. Can you imagine the rules,regulations & huge $fee's$ they would charge?
Most of the states I travel to reciprocate already.
The same States that are anti 2A still will be & will opt out anyways.

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Old 11-17-2011, 02:09 AM   #12
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Is that legal? I'm gonna PM my number to you, I want to talk to you and see if we can get this through my thick skull.
Yeah, it's legal and I'm happy to talk with you, but I've been at work since 4:00AM and it's 10:00PM now and just finished up some stuff for work at home and I'm beat. I'm gonna crash now.

The Senate Majority Leader and Speaker of the House have pretty broad discretion in regard to what they allow to come to the floor. The idea is that they should be able to table or delay less important matters so that serious matters can be dealt with sooner. But of course this is abused along partisan and ideological lines to deny the other side the opportunity to push a bill through.

If a bill has a lot of publicity and public support, that's another matter; they often really can't just prevent the bill from coming to the floor without looking like obstructionist pricks.

Another thing they can do is send a bill to committee for study or review and the committee can delay looking at the bill and returning it to congress indefinitely.

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If it dies it dies.
I would rather have the States have control of CC.
If the Government gives you something they can take it away. Can you imagine the rules,regulations & huge $fee's$ they would charge?
Most of the states I travel to reciprocate already.
The same States that are anti 2A still will be & will opt out anyways.
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If it dies it dies.
I would rather have the States have control of CC.
If the Government gives you something they can take it away. Can you imagine the rules,regulations & huge $fee's$ they would charge?
Most of the states I travel to reciprocate already.
The same States that are anti 2A still will be & will opt out anyways.

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I have to say, honestly I agree on this particular issue. I just think it's bs that they can do this.
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:28 AM   #15
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If it dies it dies.
I would rather have the States have control of CC.
If the Government gives you something they can take it away. Can you imagine the rules,regulations & huge $fee's$ they would charge?
Most of the states I travel to reciprocate already.
The same States that are anti 2A still will be & will opt out anyways.

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As far as I can tell, the bill doesn't interfere with the States issuing or not issuing CCW Permits. I simply says that like a drivers license, States are required to honor CCW Permits issued by other States.
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Let's hope they don't add any sneaky amendments to it!
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Ooo That's not good!!
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But what I really want to know, is can the Senate just refuse to bring it up? Can they just say, "Oh we don't want to talk about that" and just ignore it?
Of course they can. Neither House of Congress can compel the other to do anything. Many bills die in committee and never see a vote. It has always been so.

Frankly, anything that impedes Congress from passing new laws is probably a Good Thing in the big picture.
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If it dies it dies.
I would rather have the States have control of CC.
If the Government gives you something they can take it away. Can you imagine the rules,regulations & huge $fee's$ they would charge?
Most of the states I travel to reciprocate already.
The same States that are anti 2A still will be & will opt out anyways.

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Use CC to denote Constitutional Carry. The ability tocarry open or concealed without any permit or license. Only 4, maybe 5 states have it. I wish all 50 did. Use cc for concealed carry, which you know what it is.

As far as the bill, its something I want but i think im against it passing. Should be with the state. If the government can give rights, they can take them.
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Not trying to nitpick or inflame, just trying to stress the importance towards the ultimate goal in 2A, Constitutional Carry across the nation.
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