Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > General Firearms Forums > Legal and Activism > My proposal to Regain Control of Government

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-01-2010, 06:39 PM   #11
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 496
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alsaqr View Post
There is no reason for me to believe that a Republican controlled government would do anything other than they have done in the past. For years the Republicans ran everything: All they accomplished was to spout feel good rhetoric and drive the the national debt out of sight.

We need to vote all of the long serving scumbags of both partys out of congress.
With regard to spending, the current President has signed into law more debt that any President from Washington to Bush II Combined so how does that weigh in on the Equation?
Not saying they did nothing wrong because that would be a Lie.
__________________
Kelly J is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2010, 06:41 PM   #12
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Kimber45's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 261
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alsaqr View Post
There is no reason for me to believe that a Republican controlled government would do anything other than they have done in the past. For years the Republicans ran everything: All they accomplished was to spout feel good rhetoric and drive the the national debt out of sight.

We need to vote all of the long serving scumbags of both partys out of congress.
Who said anything about republicans or democrats? Why do you feel this is an anti-democratic forum? Why do you feel you need to bash one and defend the other? How about as Kelly quote WE THE PEOPLE?
__________________
Kimber45 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2010, 06:43 PM   #13
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 496
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimber45 View Post
My $.02,
Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators or Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States.

Next would be term limits. I recommend the maximum any politician may hold office for is two (2) terms and never electable to that office or an equal office. If elected to congress, either house or senate and serves two terms by reelection he has fulfilled his obligation. I'd also change the time served to 3 years per term!

Career politicians are the disease that is killing America.
I thought about that Issue and the only reason I did not include it was to try to address the most important first after that a lot of other ideas could and should be implemented, we have to try to start somewhere.
__________________
Kelly J is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2010, 06:46 PM   #14
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 496
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelly J View Post
With regard to spending, the current President has signed into law more debt that any President from Washington to Bush II Combined so how does that weigh in on the Equation?
Not saying they did nothing wrong because that would be a Lie.
My proposals have nothing to do with a party affiliation, and for the record without naming names there are enough on both sides of the fence to blame but that isn't what this is about.
__________________
Kelly J is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2010, 07:13 PM   #15
Resident JackHole
FTF_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Angry_bald_guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Perryville, Kentucky
Posts: 1,593
Liked 290 Times on 164 Posts
Likes Given: 41

Default

I like it, with the exception of Social Security. I want it and all other wealth redistribution programs gone.

__________________
Darrel

No, you can't take my gun. I'm gonna need it when you try to take my truck...

Μολὼν λαβέ

I'm a mechanic. I fix things. This is why I will never be able to hold public office.
Angry_bald_guy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2010, 07:13 PM   #16
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
orangello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 19,170
Liked 5731 Times on 3358 Posts
Likes Given: 4877

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelly J View Post
The tax I mentioned is the Fair tax not the Flat Tax!
My apologies; i misread. In that case, i can not agree with your proposed tax reform, as i don't think the middle class needs to bear a larger portion of the national tax burden, and that is one of the probable outcomes of the "Fair Tax", as i have seen it described. Further, coming from a background as a state tax auditor who worked with a large number of auditors primarily concerned with sales tax audits (puke smiley), i sincerely believe that such a tax would require even more audits to ensure compliance, meaning that the Infernal Revenue Service would require even more budget & personnel & authority, rather than less. Of course, opinions on taxation vary greatly, and mine is only based on a passing familiarity with the "Fair Tax" and a decade or so in tax regulation supported by a masters degree in accounting and another decade or so in a small public accounting practice.

I still like the term limits idea, though.
__________________

Dead Bears, the only good kind.

orangello is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2010, 07:15 PM   #17
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Kimber45's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 261
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelly J View Post
My proposals have nothing to do with a party affiliation, and for the record without naming names there are enough on both sides of the fence to blame but that isn't what this is about.
It should never be about the parties, one leans one way, the other the opposite and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. The goal here is to restore the Republic before we become a socialist nation.

Are people who believe in restoring the Republic of the republican party only? God I pray that isn't true or we have already lost.
__________________
Kimber45 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2010, 07:32 PM   #18
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Kimber45's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 261
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by orangello View Post
My apologies; i misread. In that case, i can not agree with your proposed tax reform, as i don't think the middle class needs to bear a larger portion of the national tax burden, and that is one of the probable outcomes of the "Fair Tax", as i have seen it described. Further, coming from a background as a state tax auditor who worked with a large number of auditors primarily concerned with sales tax audits (puke smiley), i sincerely believe that such a tax would require even more audits to ensure compliance, meaning that the Infernal Revenue Service would require even more budget & personnel & authority, rather than less. Of course, opinions on taxation vary greatly, and mine is only based on a passing familiarity with the "Fair Tax" and a decade or so in tax regulation supported by a masters degree in accounting and another decade or so in a small public accounting practice.

I still like the term limits idea, though.
Good post. Now to the word "Fair"? What is fair? Fair to you might mean 30% but fair to me might be 15% and what about the 47 to 49% of US citizens who pay not one red cent (AKA Indian Head penny) of federal income tax? What would fair be to them? Man talk about some pissed off people, going from paying NOTHING to 15 much less 30% of there wages? Yea Haw!!!!!
__________________
Kimber45 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2010, 07:44 PM   #19
Resident JackHole
FTF_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Angry_bald_guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Perryville, Kentucky
Posts: 1,593
Liked 290 Times on 164 Posts
Likes Given: 41

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimber45 View Post
Good post. Now to the word "Fair"? What is fair? Fair to you might mean 30% but fair to me might be 15% and what about the 47 to 49% of US citizens who pay not one red cent (AKA Indian Head penny) of federal income tax? What would fair be to them? Man talk about some pissed off people, going from paying NOTHING to 15 much less 30% of there wages? Yea Haw!!!!!
I personally think a flat tax would be more appropriate. Set it at 17% and go with it.
__________________
Darrel

No, you can't take my gun. I'm gonna need it when you try to take my truck...

Μολὼν λαβέ

I'm a mechanic. I fix things. This is why I will never be able to hold public office.
Angry_bald_guy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2010, 07:45 PM   #20
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
orangello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 19,170
Liked 5731 Times on 3358 Posts
Likes Given: 4877

Default

Kimber, he is talking about a specific proposal, not a "flat tax" as i had misunderstood. FairTax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Wiki has a description & some links. It probably doesn't have many more problems than the current income-based tax system, but the IRS has had a few decades to start getting a handle on enforcement of the current system, at least.

I had the same thoughts as you on the sudden jump for so many who currently pay soooooo little in federal income tax.

__________________

Dead Bears, the only good kind.

orangello is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Your Government at Work suprdave The Club House 10 05-25-2010 04:24 AM
say what you want about our government... roosterjuicer The Club House 7 04-08-2009 11:32 PM
Obama on Gun Control, McCain on Gun Control tracker Legal and Activism 8 06-23-2008 01:00 AM
Just how low can a government agency go? opaww Politics, Religion and Controversy 17 05-19-2008 01:09 PM
Gun-Ban Proposal to be Considered in Louisiana! opaww Legal and Activism 4 05-22-2007 10:06 PM



Newest Threads