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Old 01-05-2013, 05:46 PM   #41
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The Gallup Poll shows more than 80% of Republicans and less than 40% of Democrats favor the NRA. I'm neither, conservative, can plainly see that's more than a two-to-one difference and that you want to make The Left look more mainstream as well as stab the NRA in the back. Sorry Chain...

8.5% of Americans support the NRA? NRA has a 54% favorability rating with Americans whilst our illustrious Congress' is stuck in the mid teens.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/159578/nra-favorable-image.aspx

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Education is not an issue here but thanks for sounding like a biggot. Just stating the obvious. If gun bans werent brought up why would we honestly need the nra? And by looking at the obvious what good are they accomplishing? With this muslim president in office nra doesnt have much chance. He is out to disarm the white man for his pride and joy.......i believe all gun owners should stand up for their rights and take a different approach than taking the coward way out n paying someone to protect them....
I sound like a bigot? Droping the race card is the tactic of those incapable of making a logical argument...so despite your assertion it's quite obvious that education is your problem.

Can you be irritated that we need a special interest group to help defend our 2A rights? Sure...we'd ALL love to live in perfect world where every law abiding citizen understood the value of arms and embraced the deterent factor provided by the legitimate use of force.

Unfortunately this is not our reality...a large section of our population has been fooled and is willing to sacrifice all of our liberty in order to "feel" safer.

What has the NRA accomplished? Look at the last 20 years and the march
of CCW across the country, stand your ground laws, castle doctrine, Ect...are all due to the NRA re-legitimizing the right of self preservation through the notion that it is acceptable to use legitimate force against violent attack.

Your last post makes is stunningly clear why fighting is a young man's game while "strategy" is left to those of us who's age and experience has surpassed our testosterone...

A wise man once said the god gave us two ears and one mouth for a reason...

...listen twice as much as you speak...and you're bound to learn something!

So again...research what the NRA has a accomplished. The past threats we've beaten back, the expansion of concealed carry, and the normalization of the use of force by us lowely serfs...and perhaps you will begin to get it.

...or, you can march on DC guns a blazing...don't worry, were right behind you!

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I say we protest peacefully, and begin mass donation to GOA, and NRA.

I am basing it on what happened in CA with the OC protests. People carried these modern sporting rifles that scared the sheep. They ran to Gov. Brown, and he finalized it. As of 4 days ago we do not have the right to open carry an unloaded firearm(s).
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The Gallup Poll shows more than 80% of Republicans and less than 40% of Democrats favor the NRA. I'm neither, conservative, can plainly see that's more than a two-to-one difference and that you want to make The Left look more mainstream as well as stab the NRA in the back. Sorry Chain...

8.5% of Americans support the NRA? NRA has a 54% favorability rating with Americans whilst our illustrious Congress' is stuck in the mid teens.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/159578/nra-favorable-image.aspx
That is some kind of fuzzy math you are using. You could also say that 100% of NRA members support the NRA.
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I sound like a bigot? Droping the race card is the tactic of those incapable of making a logical argument...so despite your assertion it's quite obvious that education is your problem.

Can you be irritated that we need a special interest group to help defend our 2A rights? Sure...we'd ALL love to live in perfect world where every law abiding citizen understood the value of arms and embraced the deterent factor provided by the legitimate use of force.

Unfortunately this is not our reality...a large section of our population has been fooled and is willing to sacrifice all of our liberty in order to "feel" safer.

What has the NRA accomplished? Look at the last 20 years and the march
of CCW across the country, stand your ground laws, castle doctrine, Ect...are all due to the NRA re-legitimizing the right of self preservation through the notion that it is acceptable to use legitimate force against violent attack.

Your last post makes is stunningly clear why fighting is a young man's game while "strategy" is left to those of us who's age and experience has surpassed our testosterone...

A wise man once said the god gave us two ears and one mouth for a reason...

...listen twice as much as you speak...and you're bound to learn something!

So again...research what the NRA has a accomplished. The past threats we've beaten back, the expansion of concealed carry, and the normalization of the use of force by us lowely serfs...and perhaps you will begin to get it.

...or, you can march on DC guns a blazing...don't worry, were right behind you!

Tack
So Tack. If some sort of meaningful gun restricting legislation passes, will it be the NRA's fault for not preventing it? If they get credit for the good will they will have to take blame for the bad.
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No chain if they manage to infringe on 2A it will be your fault and people like you who voted for these idiots.

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That is some kind of fuzzy math you are using. You could also say that 100% of NRA members support the NRA.
Yeah, I know your type which is why I, as you I'm sure inadvertently did, copied my current direct and directly-related-to-this-issue source from Gallup for everybody to easily see the simple facts for themselves vs. your personal "new math" based on old, unrelated, data with an aim (play on words intended) at undermining gunowners which seems to be a theme of yours (I'm not the only one to have noticed).

Can you say "holy alphabet"?

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No chain if they manage to infringe on 2A it will be your fault and people like you who voted for these idiots.
Credit for results but no responsibility for failure. Explain how that works.
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No chain if they manage to infringe on 2A it will be your fault and people like you who voted for these idiots.
Contrary to popular belief on a firearm forum, gun rights/ownership isn't necessarily the deciding factor for most voters. If I only voted for a person/party I was in 100% agreement with I would never vote. Voting Dem doesn't automatically make you anti-gun, more than likely it just makes you pro something else.
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Contrary to popular belief on a firearm forum, gun rights/ownership isn't necessarily the deciding factor for most voters. If I only voted for a person/party I was in 100% agreement with I would never vote. Voting Dem doesn't automatically make you anti-gun, more than likely it just makes you pro something else.
Really!???
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