First of all I think there has been well mannered debate on this topic.
I enjoy threads that are well behaved even though at times I just
cannot resist the erge to stir the poop...
I do not intend to here.
My experience with LEO's is there are basically two kinda cops. Ones
that view their profession to help people and provide direction and
security within the confines of the law. And a minority (but growing
number) that have their own "interpetation" of the law and their duties.
Sounds to me like Robocop is one of the former types. I have quite
a bit of social interaction with LEO's the first group does not care much
for the second group either.
Originally Posted by Doc3402
The law requires you to be 18 years of age or older to openly carry a long gun in Michigan. So, what is the best way to prove your age?
So what if...
The LEO walked up to Coombs and says, "Excuse me young man, can I see
your ID to confirm that you are 18 or older. So that you are in compliance
with Michigan Law covering Open Carry." I believe the LEO is would be
completely correct in doing so. Asking for proof of age when the law
clearly place age restrictions is well within the perview of LEO's duties.
I do not think that this is what happened here. But if it did go down that
way and Coombs still refused to show any ID then I would be more inclined
to side with the LEO.
Now in my mind if the LEO was of the first type I described above and
Coombs was 17 and not 18. The LEO would have taken the kid and the
rifle home explained the situtation to Mom and Dad and left the kid to
Maybe I am just living in a fairy tale land.
Originally Posted by DrumJunkie
At the heart of the matter is there are LEO all over the U.S. that just don't want anyone but them having a handgun. And some will not care what the law is. But to put it into perspective if the cops are called to you open carrying you are still the man with a gun. It would be in the best interest to diffuse the problem as soon as possible. Let them run my name I really don't care. But they wouldn't stop me from carrying open if I chose to and sooner or later they will get tired of coming out to see me.
Excellent approach. You hear alot of the opposition to OC and CC descibe
that the Nation would revert to the Wild West. Well what they are thinking
of the Wild West is Hollywood's interpertation; not the actual Wild West.
Maybe getting the real Wild West back would be an improvement.
Originally Posted by partdeux
My father in law, who was born in the depression era, laughed at arresting this young man carrying a rifle. He talks about taking his rifle to school when he was a boy.
Once in High School my friend and I were called down to the principal's
office. He simply asked us to follow him, we walked out to the parking
lot to my friend's truck. He asked if we had guns in the back. Yes, we
were going hunting right after school. You could see the cased shotguns
and the boxes of ammo next to them. His response, "Next time cover them
up with a blanket, I have teachers working for me that are anti-gun "C-word"
(yes he actually said that to us as students) and I do not want to have to
deal with their crap." As he turned to walked away he said, "Good luck
hunting." We covered them with an old army blanket and went back to class
they next day we brought in one of the backstraps and gave to the principal.
He very much appreciated it. We kept our guns out of view from there on.
Never a word was mentioned again, and we kept our guns out of plain view.
Today, they would have called in the SWAT team.