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Chester 07-13-2008 04:24 PM

McCain gun record
 
http://www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htm

Need i say more

bkt 07-13-2008 10:26 PM

And as others will be quick and correct to point out, Obama may be far worse. But as bad as Obama is, his terrible actions to not make McCain's actions acceptable. At least, not to me.

Chester 07-14-2008 02:46 AM

This is why i won't vote for the hack.

Lt.Underhill 07-14-2008 02:51 AM

Whoever gets it we are screwed!!!

And i don't mean in a fun spanky kinda way .....





SEMPER FI

Texanbybirth 07-16-2008 08:54 PM

If we are going to elect a "conservative" that does liberal things, I'd rather have the liberal. It will make all the difference in 2012. I'm leaning Libertarian this year. Maybe for good.

RL357Mag 07-17-2008 03:20 AM

That makes a lot of sense....:eek:
Hell, if they want to increase my taxes I would rather give them my entire paycheck...
If they want to ban my AR-15, I'd rather give them all my guns...
My nose is too big, I'll just cut it off to spite my face....

Texanbybirth 07-17-2008 04:19 AM

My point is that the Republican party is ignoring their conservative base and will continue to do so until they see their base leaving. I'll vote for them when they put a conservative on the ticket. A conservative with a conservative record. I don't want to see Obama in the White House, but if McCain starts outlawing guns and raising taxes, we'll have nowhere but a 3rd party to go to. Republicans and Democrats are starting to look like 2 sides of the same coin.

bkt 07-17-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Texanbybirth (Post 32126)
If we are going to elect a "conservative" that does liberal things, I'd rather have the liberal. It will make all the difference in 2012. I'm leaning Libertarian this year. Maybe for good.

A whole lot of people think Obama and his "new" ideas are great. Some of them will have a hard lesson coming if he gets in with a Dem congress.

I don't like ceding ground to leftist scum which is why neither O nor M will get my vote. If the S ends up HTF, so be it; we'll deal with it. The worse things get, the more likely others will wake up to recognize socia1ism and abandoning the rule of law and globalization are not so hot.

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Originally Posted by Texanbybirth (Post 32184)
My point is that the Republican party is ignoring their conservative base and will continue to do so until they see their base leaving.

Here's to hoping they do. (I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texanbybirth (Post 32184)
I don't want to see Obama in the White House, but if McCain starts outlawing guns and raising taxes, we'll have nowhere but a 3rd party to go to.

And leaving our borders wide open, and catering to racist groups intent on taking 1/3 of the United States by force, and further government encroachment into our lives, and....

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Originally Posted by Texanbybirth (Post 32184)
Republicans and Democrats are starting to look like 2 sides of the same coin.

They look like the same side of the same coin to me.

RL357Mag 07-17-2008 01:54 PM

You can "deal with" what ever the next Supreme Court throws at us. And you'll be dealing with it for the rest of your life too. Whatever immoral shi% they want to force down your throat you WILL be dealing with, and you won't be able to do a damned thing about it because you voted for it, and it will be here to stay for many , many years, not just the next couple election cycles like all you "principled" voters seem to think.

BigO01 07-17-2008 03:38 PM

RL the Supreme Court possible nominees really aren't that important at this junction that and McCain is just as easily to nominate a closet liberal because of his so called centrist left leaning stance on issues like Immigration .

Steven is the oldest member of the Court at 88 and the most likely to retire already a liberal , followed by Ginsberg at 75 so even if liberals take those seats it is a wash .

Scalia and Kennedy both at 72 should survive even 8 years of Obama barring Illness and as we know Kennedy is a bit of a wildcard .

Breyer will soon be 70 and being a liberal he would probably retire in a second term of liberal power to protect the status Quo of the court .

Souter at 69 could be around for 3 perhaps even 4 Presidential cycles and Thomas , Alito and Roberts will be around for perhaps 20-25 years .

While Obama would get a chance to appoint a Supreme or two it is unlikely to make a change in the way it presently leans .

I greatly doubt McCain would nominate any conservative as strong as Roberts , Scalia or Thomas .


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