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Old 02-21-2011, 01:14 PM   #11
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Good read Boss, words of wisdom and points to ponder indeed.

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Old 02-21-2011, 01:32 PM   #12
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"Why have people picked a ten-round limit? Why not two?"

This has been gnawing at me for a long time....

How did 10 become a magic number?

For that matter, how do people come up with capacity numbers at all? A 16 round mag? A 33?

If a higher capacity means a greater chance of mechanical failure, aren't they "safer" the higher you go?

The maniac who gets the 75 round magazine will likely have a failure first, so shouldn't 75 round magazines be mandatory?

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I see no problem with 30 round magazines, but I can't justify a 75 or 100 round drum. There is no point to those unless you attend Knob Creek gatherings.

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the public has more right to high capacity magazines than the military or police does.
I just don't see it that way. Perhaps I'm missing something? I can see a need for the military to have a large magazine for a handgun as there is a possibility of dealing with a lot of targets.

I don't see that need with for civilians.
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You should be allowed any mag you want. Just because you don't like or see a point to them doesn't mean someone else shouldn't have them. That line of thinking is what has got us into this mess in the first place.

Wait till the greens start on us. I can hear it now we don't like gas guzzling corvettes so nobody should have one.

I don't see any point to spending thousands more for an under powered Harley but I don't give a damn if someone else wants one, it's their business.

I don't like spinach so what now we don't let anybody eat spinach. Come on guys you are falling for the same old tired crap these libs believe in. It's suppose to be a free country but they are brainwashing us slowly but surely.

I'm currently living in a previously commie country and I swear these people have more freedoms than we do in the states. Nobody cares if they play with firecrackers cause it's their damn fingers if they want to blow them off that's ok with everyone else.

Personally as long as nobody is stepping on my toes they can do what they want to themselves it's none of my business.

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I would agree with most of your post but it's comparing apples to oranges. I can't stand the whole green movement with a passion. I have two cars which have no other purpose that driving obnoxiously fast. They aren't practical in any way. However, guns have a pretty singular purpose. They are intended to be used to kill other things. While cars are intended to get from point A to B. One is pretty benign, the other isn't.

I will also agree that I'm sick and tired of the liberal agenda. But the problem we have is that nobody is willing to find a middle ground. One side feels they have the right to do whatever they want while the other feels you have the right to nothing. I'm not supporting banning these, as I have stated, that will do nothing. Both sides are thinking in absolutes, all or nothing. Neither will work in the end.

JMO, I could be wrong.

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I would agree with most of your post but it's comparing apples to oranges. I can't stand the whole green movement with a passion. I have two cars which have no other purpose that driving obnoxiously fast. They aren't practical in any way. However, guns have a pretty singular purpose. They are intended to be used to kill other things. While cars are intended to get from point A to B. One is pretty benign, the other isn't.

I will also agree that I'm sick and tired of the liberal agenda. But the problem we have is that nobody is willing to find a middle ground. One side feels they have the right to do whatever they want while the other feels you have the right to nothing. I'm not supporting banning these, as I have stated, that will do nothing. Both sides are thinking in absolutes, all or nothing. Neither will work in the end.

JMO, I could be wrong.
Pretty narrow view of the purpose of the gun.

I fire a couple hundred rounds a month, without killing anyone. For sporting hunting, competition.
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I would agree with most of your post but it's comparing apples to oranges. I can't stand the whole green movement with a passion. I have two cars which have no other purpose that driving obnoxiously fast. They aren't practical in any way. However, guns have a pretty singular purpose. They are intended to be used to kill other things. While cars are intended to get from point A to B. One is pretty benign, the other isn't.

I will also agree that I'm sick and tired of the liberal agenda. But the problem we have is that nobody is willing to find a middle ground. One side feels they have the right to do whatever they want while the other feels you have the right to nothing. I'm not supporting banning these, as I have stated, that will do nothing. Both sides are thinking in absolutes, all or nothing. Neither will work in the end.

JMO, I could be wrong.
Automobile accidents kill more people each year in the US than people shooting each other. Speed is a decisive factor in many auto accidents. I think there is no need to have a car that goes over the speed limit, but that does not mean I don't think cars should be governed to that limit.

Several states have magazine cap limits and that does not stop the criminals from getting them and using them. If I want to get a 30+ round magazine for any firearm I have, then why should I not get one. More shooting time at the range and less reloading.

Most states already have cap limits on hunting firearms. Game is what firearms are used to kill by a vast majority. I have guns that I use to hunt and guns that I have just in case I need to protect myself and my family. So, your "guns have a single purpose and that is to kill" agruement null and void.


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I don't know where everyone is buying all these "killer" guns and ammo and magazines and knives and swords and "stuff".

None of mine have ever killed anyone.

My .308 took down a couple of hogs as part of a controlled hunt a few years ago, but it didn't do it by itself, as a matter of fact I had to do all the friggin work.

The hell?!

I got to start shopping at better places apparently....

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I would agree with most of your post but it's comparing apples to oranges. I can't stand the whole green movement with a passion. I have two cars which have no other purpose that driving obnoxiously fast. They aren't practical in any way. However, guns have a pretty singular purpose. They are intended to be used to kill other things. While cars are intended to get from point A to B. One is pretty benign, the other isn't.
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None of my guns has ever killed a living creature, unless you count cardboard zombies and clay discs. I only ever use them at the range to target shoot, does that mean I'm using them wrong?
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