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Old 03-19-2013, 01:48 PM   #1
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Can citizens purchase machine guns? If so, what are the requirements.? I don't want one--just curios.

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It depends on your state.

Here's how I understand the process

If you are in a state that does allow it (most states I think, but please CHECK first), then there is a long process you have to go through. It involves a background check, a $200 tax stamp, and usually takes around 6 months or so. You also have to track down an FFL that is able to transfer the gun to you. Your normal local gun shop may not be able to do that since it requires a special FFL.
You also need to have a LOT of disposable income. An M16 generally cost between $12,000 to $20,000. Cheap machineguns are usually start around $4000-$5000 (MAC-10). It is also expensive just to shoot one. Ammo is not getting any cheaper, so emptying a mag in a few seconds burns a lot of money.

My advice, unless you do have that kind of income, get a semiauto. There are plenty to choose from that are $500-$1500, even some semiauto versions of belt fed machineguns like this are cheaper than machineguns.

Goryunov-$3500

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1CSG43&name=Semi-Automatic+Goryunov+7.62x54R+Belt+Fed+Rifle

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Yes. They have to be registered with the BATFE already. Some states prohibit them.
Following the paper trail to legally owning one is a long and difficult task. It can be done with money and time.
This is a quick answer, check with the ATF for more info if you want more details on the process.
MG's are legal in my state but at $16k for a pre 1986 M16 or $20k for an MP5, I will pass. No more MG's can be added to the registry since 1986 so that limits supply and prices skyrocket.

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Both of the above answers are correct. You must be 21, able to purchase an ordinary handgun, and live in a state that permits it. ONLY the machineguns already registered with the BATFE as of May 1986 CAN be transferred to a private citizen.

Your best bet is to find a machine gun dealer in your state, and talk with him. Take a LARGE checkbook with you.

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Great info, bros. Im not in the market for one. I was discussing this with my folks who think a fella can just go out and pick one up. I told them it was nearly impossible or very expensive to acquire a machine gun. But I just had no hard facts. Now I am better informed.

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Its not impossible, it just takes a LOT of time, money, and probably headaches.

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Its not impossible, it just takes a LOT of time, money, and probably headaches.
Unless you are a criminal!
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Exactly Tom! The NFA is completely unconstitutional and doesn't save ANY lives. IIRC, the only legally owned machine gun used in a crime was done by a law enforcement officer.

Tell me any product you have ever bought that had a tax on it greater than the purchase price. IIRC, when the NFA was enacted in 1934 the price of a new Thompson .45ACP sub-machinegun was around $120. That purchase price made it one of the more expensive firearms on the market. So a $120 gun with a $200 tax to be able to own it. That is a COMPLETE infringement. Imagine going to buy a new Toyota Camry for $25,000 and then having to pay a tax to the gov't in the amount of $40,000 to be able to buy it. $65,000 for a new Camry!!!

Also, as a side note, convicted felons aren't subject to the NFA. Only LACs are subject to this BS unconstitutional law. As a convicted felon you aren't allowed to own a firearm, so making them register under the NFA would violate the convicted felon's fifth amendment rights. Yes, I know, it sounds crazy, but the courts have ruled on this and convicted felons aren't subject to the NFA!!!

Just another example of how 95% of gun control laws only affect LACs, not criminals, and they don't save lives. Just say NO, to gun control.

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