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01-16-2013, 04:39 PM
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I would hope the Supreme Court would shoot down and decision made by the AG to disarm a group of individuals, as far as doctors go, if they ask me if I own guns I would simply say "No" and try to keep a straight face.
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01-16-2013, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jasrrt
I do. Why does a Doctor need to know if I have guns in my house?
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Just tell him it's none of his business if he asks
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01-16-2013, 04:44 PM
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What the hell am I doing?
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Originally Posted by davva360
Just tell him it's none of his business if he asks
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Just flex and point to your biceps.
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01-16-2013, 04:45 PM
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Just flex and point to your biceps.
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Lol. That's good stuff.
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01-16-2013, 05:00 PM
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May you live in interesting times...
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Originally Posted by Jstrong
Here it is folks.
CattleDog has done all you lazy readers a favor of doing a great job of briefly outlining this list of actions in post 2,while still hitting all the important parts.
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
What is "relevant data?... are people making comments going to be monitored? Like a no fly list?.. buying ammo and guns? Credit card purchases?...this is vague and scary.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
Again, vague. Will the federal background check be notified if my mother has dementia and lives with me? If my son has aspergers, will this be sent to the background check? Will war vets with PTSD now be put on the federal background check list?
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
"Incentives"...threaten to remove federal highway funding if they don't comply with any demands from the government regarding the 2A... just like they did with the drinking age... threaten to remove federal funding from programs...then anyone opposing federal gun proposals will be deluded with ads saying he is trying to starve local children, and take away money from schools, helping to secure that politicians defeat in the future... think I'm joking?... Which state has demanded the drinking age be brought to 18 again, even for serving military personnel?
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
Same as Russia did... first the mentally ill, then the alcoholics... expect to see people on the "no fly list" added to this category...is someone living with or related to a mentally ill person, now a dangerous person?... war vets, Ron Paul supporters, constitutionalists, anti-abortion people, etc were included in the MIAC report, of "dangerous people"
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
I never knew this was an issue... I thought law enforcement did this if they seized a gun?
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
We'll see what this entails...
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
Yeah right... Uh...the NRA does this and is demonized for it. Is this "campaign" going to be more like another anti-smoking campaign?
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
Simple, rule they ARE NOT effective, and require them to become more cumbersome than ever... by default, suggest that people need to store their weapons in safes by mandate, and have people come to your home to inspect your safes...
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
WTF does this mean? "Investigations?"... So a guy gets pulled over, the cops run his gun as a background check, and now it ties into a federal database?....
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
In other words, oh never, mind...the DOJ...DOJ...requiring a report on LOST guns... need I say more?
11. Nominate an ATF director.
We're gonna ram through the most anti-gun SOB you guys have ever seen. ATF rulings in the future will decree certain weapons reclassified as destructive devices, as they did with street sweepers... imported guns needing American parts to be 922 compliant?... yeah, that's easy to make impossible to follow
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
The only thing I agree with so far
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
Yeah...uh this is open for extreme interpretation as well...
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
The same, one sided organization that will come back with more demands and rulings against gun owners, as they've done repeatedly
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
We're going to audit the **** out of any company, threaten, and intimidate any company that doesn't make guns how we say to make them...
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
Now your doctor gets to know your private life, AND REPORT IT TO THE FEDS!!! Yaaay!!!!
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
See 16, above
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
I could go along with this.... depending on what those incentives are.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
Is this redundant from number 12 above?...I've taken a government, active shooter course. The content was how to hide, and crouch to avoid ricochet and spall off the floor...laughable at best.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
LOL... does this mean someone is actually going to have to read the health care bill?
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
??? I need to research this.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
Sorry dude... you took xanax after your wife died 3 years ago.. Haven't you read the "finalized" rules?
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
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No... You're launching a national dialogue on gun owners... be honest.
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01-16-2013, 05:02 PM
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Agent Provacateur
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Originally Posted by jasrrt
I do. Why does a Doctor need to know if I have guns in my house?
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So , just because they ask doesn't mean my answer won't be. " That's none of your damn business sir "
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01-16-2013, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jasrrt
I do. Why does a Doctor need to know if I have guns in my house?
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Just say no.
It works for drugs...
eldar
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01-16-2013, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by blucoondawg
Where's the executive bans on mags and semi rifles everyone's been peeing in their pants about for the last couple weeks?
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Simply, this was only a list of executive actions to be taken by the president by order, the other half (AWB, 10 round mag limit, universal background checks) still stands but will have to go through congress. Hope that clears it up for ya...
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01-16-2013, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gh0zt36
So , just because they ask doesn't mean my answer won't be. " That's none of your damn business sir "
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I think my answer would be the same question. Do you? How many?
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01-16-2013, 05:26 PM
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My issue is that NONE of these things in anyway targets our countries issues on violence! They're not even close.
If you haven't seen it yet, gunsamerica posted a nice video going over the actual numbers. Since the 90's our violent crime rate has dropped 50%
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