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KalashnikovJosh 08-22-2012 03:03 AM

Lest We Forget: FEDGOV askes LE to Police Politics
 
Theres alot of banter going on right now on the forum about "cop bashing" and such.I just thought it was important to know why so many Liberty loving otherwise GOOD PEOPLE do not TRUST law enforcement today.

But before I post the link- its important to note the following: It was a patriotic State Policeman who originally "leaked" this document to the press!

So while there is PLENTY REASON to distrust LE,there is MORE THEN ENOUGH PROOF that many of them are,in fact,ON OUR SIDE!

Now,the infamous MIAC Report,detailing how police should be aware that people who believe in the Constitution,are anti-abortion,newly returned veterans,voters who choose 3rd party candidates etc,etc- are "possible homegrown terrorists":

http://constitution.org/abus/le/miac-strategic-report.pdf


But I must ask- when enforcing the law is your job,what will you do when you are asked to police politics?

If/when your agency asks that you enforce odious,constitutionally illegitimate laws,what do you do?

locutus 08-22-2012 05:54 PM

All of the officers in my department swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitutions of the United States, and the State of Wyoming. As I pointed out in an earlier thread, most are also military veterans, and still feel bound by that oath as well.

If there were any that did not take it seriously, they didn't last long because I never met them.

I know of at least two officers who were reprimanded for refusing to carry out instructions because they were of the opinion, that the instructions violated either their oath or their sense of morality.

It should also be pointed out that peace officers do not have either the authority or responsibly to administer, write, or interpret the law. That authority was given by the constitution to the legislative, and judicial branches of government. The actions of the legislative and/or judicial must be flagrantly in in violation of the oath before the officer takes it upon himself to do someone else's constitutionally created job and make/interpret law.

When an order is flagrantly, and blatantly unconstitutional, most (99 percent) of the officers I have known and worked with would simply refuse to obey.

I would imagine that in some places like the NE and West Coast megalopolises, there are many who will blindly obey, but I certainly hope that even in NYC or 'Fisco, a majority would stand by their oath.

Calling a person from any occupation into a mandatory meeting and telling him/her to do something is one thing. Getting them to actually do it, is quite often another matter altogether.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

TDS92A 08-22-2012 06:52 PM

The link in this post has to be the most off-the-wall thing that I have ever read, and I am a Conspiracy Theorist!!!:eek:


Quote:

Originally Posted by KalashnikovJosh (Post 911496)
Theres alot of banter going on right now on the forum about "cop bashing" and such.I just thought it was important to know why so many Liberty loving otherwise GOOD PEOPLE do not TRUST law enforcement today.

But before I post the link- its important to note the following: It was a patriotic State Policeman who originally "leaked" this document to the press!

So while there is PLENTY REASON to distrust LE,there is MORE THEN ENOUGH PROOF that many of them are,in fact,ON OUR SIDE!

Now,the infamous MIAC Report,detailing how police should be aware that people who believe in the Constitution,are anti-abortion,newly returned veterans,voters who choose 3rd party candidates etc,etc- are "possible homegrown terrorists":

http://constitution.org/abus/le/miac-strategic-report.pdf


But I must ask- when enforcing the law is your job,what will you do when you are asked to police politics?

If/when your agency asks that you enforce odious,constitutionally illegitimate laws,what do you do?


locutus 08-22-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDS92A (Post 912166)
The link in this post has to be the most off-the-wall thing that I have ever read, and I am a Conspiracy Theorist!!!:eek:

It certainly reads like it was written by a truly hard-core liberal extremist, with at least a few paranoid tendencies.

The real problem that I see is that there is just enough truth mixed in with the fanaticism to cause folks that don't keep up with political issues to believe it.

KalashnikovJosh 08-22-2012 11:32 PM

The scary thing is,its all IRREFUTABLE FACT.

No "theory" to it whatsoever.Period.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/23/fusion-centers-expand-criteria-identify-militia-members/

http://www.dailypaul.com/89726/the-miac-report-saga-continues-on-the-federal-level-homeland-security-secretary-janet-napalitano-warns-of-right-wing-extre


Some people believe this was written by the SPLC and adopted by the new socialist progressive junta under the then new Obama admin.

For those of you who have never seen this before,welcome to the new Amerika.
Here,we have a new Department of Homeland Stasi,which will utilize its powers to centralize all police forces under the out of control federal government to police political opinion unfavorable to the status quo.

(Also,I have to ask- what cave were you hiding in when this happened,it created a literal media storm.)


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