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Old 02-12-2013, 03:52 AM   #41
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I'm sorry to hear that, but as all of us who've been paid to carry a gun know... It sometimes comes with the territory. Doesn't make burying colleuges any easier, but it is what it is.

I would be interested in knowing, if you know, what became of the dirty cops you could "count on one hand?"

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They work for the LAPD now

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I'm sorry to hear that, but as all of us who've been paid to carry a gun know... It sometimes comes with the territory. Doesn't make burying colleuges any easier, but it is what it is.

I would be interested in knowing, if you know, what became of the dirty cops you could "count on one hand?"

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They got fired, and blacklisted.
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Thank you for making my point.

With the funerals of two damn good officers, friends and colleagues of mine still fresh in my memory even after nearly 20 years, this sh!t is really pissing my off.

I could count on one hand the number of crooked cops I met in over 20 years active service.
No offense. The ones I have had dealings with must be the exception to the rule. I have had very few positive encounters, and have never been on the wrong side of the law.

There were a few I met that I could count on, and that could count on me should the need arise.

Nothing wrong with my stating my own personal experience and opinion. You can't judge others in this forum by cherry picking me from the crowd because my experiences have been bad.
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They got fired, and blacklisted.
Well, that isn't enough IMO. A bad cop should be held accountable for their actions, meaning they should be put on trial.

I don't hate cops in general, I specifically hate the cops who are thugs and bullies and use their badge as a means to wrongfully intimidate innocent citizens. I have been on the receiving end of police intimidation and when I called the department out for what hey did my employer was contacted and told that if he did not fire me his company would never work for the city again. (fortunately my employer is a good friend, he just doesn't send me on any jobs in that city any more.).

In the case of LAPD, they are out of control, as evidenced by the fact that they have, not once, not twice, but three times now mistakenly targeted innocent people who in no way resembled Dorner, even firing many, many rounds into the blue Toyota Tacoma and injuring the one woman.

Seriously? They violated one of the main rules of firearms safety. Positively identify your target. That is pretty simple. Their failure to do so was not just lame, it was criminal.

I in no way feel that Dorner is justified in murdering people. But I do wonder if his claims are legitimate. He reported his training officer for abusing a mentally challenged citizen. I think that is entirely possible, especially in LA. He got fired for it. He crossed the thin blue line.

If that were to be the case, Locutus, would you agree that his anger and frustration are justified (but not his murderous actions.)?

If not then I have to wonder if it is not you who have a blindness, not the other members who have spoken out against crooked cops (or maybe against the crooked LAPD).
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Locutus, have you ever lived in southern Calif? It's nothing to do with "cop haters" The LAPD and the LA County sheriff's dept have had serious problems for many years. Morale, ethics, ---- There was the Watts riots in 1965 then the second riots after Rodney King. A lot happens there that is covered by local media but never gets national attention. After I moved out of southern Calif in 1973, I have had no complaint with any police officer or dept in the rest of the state.
Whoa! Now the COPS are responsible for Watts and the King riots!? Me? I might blame, I dunno, the rioters and praised the police and Korean shop owners for their restraint. Imagine the next one, and you don't doubt it is just a matter of time, now that flat-screen TV's are so expensive but easier to carry...

Mongo, if you were being completely honest you'd admit you didn't move out of Sothern California because of the cops! Don't want to be on the wrong side of them or have them in your neigborhood? Rational civil disobedience aside, don't break the law or call them to your home!

I am not in favor of the death penalty with the possible exception for having killed a peace/police officer.
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I'm sorry to hear that, but as all of us who've been paid to carry a gun know... It sometimes comes with the territory...

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What kind of attitude is that about people wearing a uniform who died in the line of duty for those that don't? I wish they were more perfect too, but... Tack, what has gotten in to you man!?
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I guess some of the folks here have allowed their fear and distrust of all things government to become so irrational that soldiers, cops, trash collectors and the paramedic in the ambulance are now "government agents out to get them."

That's sad.

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I think we can all agree that there are good cops and there are bad cops. Also, we all recognize and appreciate the superb job the good cops do. And we all know the good cops get little recognition and the bad cops are always in the headlines. But LAPD is a barrel of mostly good apples (cops) that also is infested with internal gangs of really bad apples (cops), who have more control than can be offset by the good cops. My brother was a cop for 20 years, a patrolman the entire time, because he didn't play political games. He was never in any trouble, he did his job well. Cops like him never get any attention nor recognition. But the a$$holes who are corrupt give the rest of the cops a bad name This matter with Dorner appears that there is an unwritten agreement to shut him up. Yes, he is a dirtbag. The LAPD apparently hired him because he was passed off as a military hero. But being "tough" should not be sufficient reason to hire somebody as a cop. If they'd properly investigated his past, they'd known he was a loose cannon.

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