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Warrior1256 · 01-23-2013, 11:22 PM

What about the people that can not afford one of these safes? They are not allowed to exercise their second amemdment rights?

**rifleman1** · 01-23-2013, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrior1256

What about the people that can not afford one of these safes? They are not allowed to exercise their second amemdment rights?

you do not have to buy a safe to buy a gun,you simply have to buy a state approved lock.

**PrimePorkchop** · 01-23-2013, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rifleman1

you do not have to buy a safe to buy a gun,you simply have to buy a state approved lock.

This is my favorite part about liberals:

When talking about firearms:

Liberal: You should have to buy a lock if you want to own a firearm:
Gun Owner: What if I can't afford a lock?
Liberal: If you can afford a gun, you can afford a lock

Compare that to a conversation about food stamps

Tax Payer: If you can afford drugs, alcohol, tattoos, or Michael Jordan tennis shoes, I shouldn't be paying for your food

Liberal: Leave them alone you heartless bastard, they have a right to happiness.

**DrumJunkie** · 01-23-2013, 11:44 PM

How do you prove you have a safe? People have to come to your house? Show them a picture? A receipt?
If you are "caught" with a gun do you have to let LEO into see your storage?

**PrimePorkchop** · 01-23-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DrumJunkie

How do you prove you have a safe? People have to come to your house? Show them a picture? A receipt?
If you are "caught" with a gun do you have to let LEO into see your storage?

They didn't think the law through any further past the "it makes me feel good thinking about it" stage

**axxe55** · 01-23-2013, 11:54 PM

first you have to have a safe or some sort of state approved lock, but are not required to use it? sounds like a dumb California law. just reeks of being a stupid liberal type law!

second, i feel my means or lack of securing my firearms is my business and not the states to begin with. i keep my firearms secured an how i do it is not anyone's business.

**Popgun** · 01-24-2013, 02:36 AM

I guess I'm just tired of hearing about these shootings involving families that should have done a better job keeping their firearms away from unstable, irresponsible, or immature family members. Even that nut-job in that Portland shopping mall stole an AR from his "friend" and used it to kill 3 people. His friend should have done a better job securing his lethal equipment. Lucky there was a ccw citizen there to interupt his plans to kill more.

I guess i'm also just frustrated by irresponsibility

TaurusUserPT92 · 01-24-2013, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Popgun

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest something that I'm pretty sure is going to spark some pointed contrary opinions, but here goes.

Out here in Kalifornia (the land of idiot lawmakers) they passed one law, I think, that makes some sense. In order to purchase a firearm here, you must first purchase and own a "California Certified" gun safe (which I did a few years ago). Most of the "heavy" gun safe manufacturers safes will qualify. They need to have combination or keypad locks (no pad locks), no exposed hinges, and basically, can't be pried open with crow-bars. The law doesn't say you need to have all your guns locked-up in this safe; only that you own one. Naturally, most of my firearms are kept locked-up in this kind of safe as are many of your's, but I AM allowed to have other, less secure "quick use" safes or not use the safe at all (as with a gun under your pillow). The point is that if more people used this system, fewer firearms would be stolen or mis-used by un-stable family members such as we have seen in Conn and New Mex. In most homes, they might get to one gun, but they wouldn't be able to access the rest of the armory for additional weapon selections or additional ammo.

I'm open to critique on this subject as I'm supprised this hasn't been discussed much in the news media or here.

Thanks for your feed-back

It's kind of like making a law that requires us to have health insurance. Oh wait that already happened. What's next we all have to wear certain clothes when we leave our homes

**Mosin** · 01-24-2013, 02:49 AM

Lets talk tax credits for buying safes and I'll lend you my ear.

**nitestalker** · 01-24-2013, 02:52 AM

How damn stupid? While you are busy buying a safe the Liberals are deciding what you will be allowed to put in it? This is not about protecting your right to own safes. This is about having the freedom to own and use firearms as a Free man?
They must then add the madatory safe laws to exiting gun laws. It seems with the guilt you have you need to reconsider owning firearms? That is if you really do?

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