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DerickVonD 07-13-2012 06:16 PM

Is this just bs propaganda, with Obamacare?
 
I know Obamacare is bad, but I heard and sorry I lost the link, that there is a part of Obamacare that can be used to deny someones guns based on their medical records and can warrant the ATF the power to grab your guns because of it. Has anyone heard of this, or is this just propaganda? I have bipolar, so I know they would go after me, even though I've never been sent to any institution.

mountainman13 07-13-2012 06:23 PM

Yep it's true. They will have much easier access to all your records.

DerickVonD 07-13-2012 06:24 PM

great...guess I'll be going to jail or killed than..

Jim1611 07-13-2012 06:26 PM

Oh don't worry the dems really don't want to take your guns away. What's wrong with you guys, we just need to trust them through all of this. :rolleyes:

DerickVonD 07-13-2012 06:27 PM

Really thinking about joining a gang, atleast that way I could keep guns.

DerickVonD 07-13-2012 06:37 PM

might as well buy full auto aks black market, whats the point anyway?

orangello 07-13-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DerickVonD (Post 868604)
might as well buy full auto aks black market, whats the point anyway?

That might be a bit extreme. I do LEGALLY own some firearms that i have purchased from individuals rather than FFL's. There is no record that i own these firearms other than pictures of them and their serial numbers in case they are stolen.

If you are REALLY WORRIED, pick up some pre-owned firearms without or with less paper trail.

bkt 07-13-2012 07:12 PM

Read the explanation here: http://gunowners.org/fs2011a.htm

Essentially, there looks like there is wide latitude for government bureaucrats to be able to declare someone a "mental defective" and add their names to the NICS list.

orangello 07-13-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bkt (Post 868629)
Read the explanation here: http://gunowners.org/fs2011a.htm

Essentially, there looks like there is wide latitude for government bureaucrats to be able to declare someone a "mental defective" and add their names to the NICS list.

That indicated that being listed on NCIS prevented a person from legally possessing or purchasing a firearm. :confused: I thought NCIS only came into play when making a purchase from a shop/FFL.

Is this saying that people labeled mentally unfit by the obamacarers and added to the NCIS list would be unable to legally possess a firearm that they purchased from an individual? Do officers usually run people through NCIS to determine if they are allowed by our masters to possess a firearm or do they use another database that lists in-state convictions (rap sheet)?

mountainman13 07-13-2012 07:38 PM

Most places require you to have a license. You would be denied.


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