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Old 08-24-2014, 01:20 AM   #1
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According to this they are hurting financially and lack management direction. They replaced their executive director (Charles Heller) last year and he is no longer affiliated with them in any way. This article in the link seems to have a very dim view of the Second Amendment Foundation, too.

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/161718-2014-08-22-save-jpfo-from-being-absorbed-into-saf.htm



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Old 08-25-2014, 05:14 PM   #2
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I understand why the JFPO wouldn't want to merge but the accusations that Alan Gottleib somehow compromises on the 2nd amendment doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Per my understanding from reading these forums the SAF is considered one of the best organizations when it comes to advocating for our rights in the courts.



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Sign the petition to keep the JPFO as an independent organization. The JPFO has always been a stand up, no compromises group. We need the JPFO to maintain a balance among gun owners.

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I understand why the JFPO wouldn't want to merge but the accusations that Alan Gottleib somehow compromises on the 2nd amendment doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Per my understanding from reading these forums the SAF is considered one of the best organizations when it comes to advocating for our rights in the courts.
I heard Gottlieb on GunTalk radio, interviewed by Tom Gresham . He advocated support for the Toomey-Manchin bill as a " compromise " ( read " appeasement " ) .
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I am not sure any second amendment advocacy group can be judged by their actions on any one issue. For all we know SAF agreed to support Toomey-Manchin because it had little chance of becoming law. Pop Vox had Toomey-Manchin at 3% chance of becoming law. Pop Vox is run by Democrats.

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I am not sure any second amendment advocacy group can be judged by their actions on any one issue. For all we know SAF agreed to support Toomey-Manchin because it had little chance of becoming law. Pop Vox had Toomey-Manchin at 3% chance of becoming law. Pop Vox is run by Democrats.
That is one great stretch of speculation , JD ! I won't try to top it . I read all of the links on the matter and Claire Wolfe says Aaron Zelman detested Gottlieb as a compromiser and opportunist until his death .
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That is one great stretch of speculation , JD ! I won't try to top it . I read all of the links on the matter and Claire Wolfe says Aaron Zelman detested Gottlieb as a compromiser and opportunist until his death .
Gottlieb might very well be all the things that Zelman despised. I know the SAF gets a lot done. I think we can agree that to get a favor from a politician he has to owe you a favor or he wants cash money. Supporting your enemy in certain defeat is not a bad way to appease him.


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