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bikerlbf406 10-17-2011 03:27 AM

IL FOID card question
 
I know on the FOID card application it asks "In the past 5 years, have you been a patient in any medical facility or part of any medical facility used primarily for the care or treatment of persons for mental illness?". If you answer yes it asks for full details. I was in the local hospital mental health unit 4 years ago for a brief 4 day visit due to depression. I admitted myself in there and was not forced to go there. However do to state law my FOID card was taken from me. I'm now wanting my FOID card back for I can legally own and shoot a gun at the range, which to me is a way to relieve stress. I recently sent in my application for the FOID card, my $10 check and a letter giving full details of why I was admitted, when, for how long and my treatment while in there and the treatment I received afterwards. I'm hoping that they will issue me a FOID even though its only been 4 years and I had to answer yes to their question in order to be truthful. They cashed my check 10 days ago and I have yet to receive anything from them. I know the law says 30 days and that some people report having to wait up to 2 months or more to receive it. My question is does me answering yes to their question automatically mean that I will be denied and that I wasted my effort and $10......or do they base it upon each individual case meaning I do have a chance of getting one? I'm hopeful they will issue me one, since I've yet to get a denial letter from them, and they did cash my check, which tells me they're probably doing a back ground check on me, which I know I'll pass with no problems. I'm just if anyone else have answered yes to any of their questions and still got a FOID card or if answering yes automatically disqualify you from getting one, even though they do ask for full details. Next question is, if they do deny me a FOID, is there any way to appeal their decision and try to get it over turned?

winds-of-change 10-17-2011 04:16 AM

I think just wait and see. I don't beleive answering "yes" to that question automatically denies you a FOID card, but I think it will merit a more intense background search. Being honest is a great plus for you. I think if you were involuntarily admitted amongst a scuffle with the police, etc. might disqualify you. But your circumstances are different. I wouldn't fret. I'll bet you get that FOID card. Please, keep us informed. I'm pretty confident you'll get that card.

c3shooter 10-17-2011 01:05 PM

Yep- what she said right up there ^^^.

Boyerracing343 10-17-2011 03:19 PM

I agree with Winds-of-change. You went about this correctly (from what i read), You proposed your information in the correct manner, All you can do is wait. I remember years ago when I applied for my FOID card to took almost 12 weeks to receive it. I just recently helped my girlfriend and her older sister both apply for FOID's as well at a local gun show because it was convenient. The man told me to expect a fairly long wait (up to 16 weeks) because turn around has been slow. All you can do is wait, but I doubt they would have cashed your check if you would have been denied.

Sorry I am unable to give you any more information that hasn't already been stated by Winds, but I do wish you good luck.


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danf_fl 10-18-2011 08:24 AM

Okay, you give the state $10 to get a card that certifies you to own a firearm.

Would Illinois make more money if they carded those who cannot own a firearm?

I am glad I do not reside in the asylum of Ill.

Shade 10-18-2011 01:01 PM

The fact they cashed you check is a good sign, but not a done deal. You
might have to get a note from your doctor that you are not a danger to
yourself or anyone else. The fact you admitted yourself, is a huge help.

Yes, the State of Illinois is very strange, it is a bipolar state. Chicagoans vs.
the evil "downstaters".

bikerlbf406 10-18-2011 09:55 PM

Thanks for all the replies, I feel more confident now that I will get it, I'll just have to patiently wait for it. I'm really hoping the state keeps to their 30 day law, even though they have a tendency to take a lot longer, as there is a gun show about 15 minutes from my house coming up December 3rd and 4th and I'd really like to possibly pick me up a firearm there. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I have it by then. I'll keep everyone updated though once I get it or hear anything about it.

jonbouy 10-20-2011 06:35 PM

It is very good you answered correctly, if you hadn't and they found out it would be bad news. At this point wait and see, but don't be surprised if it does not work out. The ISRA (their legal team) had to go to court for a lady that was pregnant and put in the mental ward temporarily because the maturnity/birthing ward was full. (they found out, she did not claim it, probably didn't think it made any difference)
They denied her FOID until legal action was taken, so there is very little common sense, let alone sense, involved.
I do not know how it ended up.
Good luck and be sure to keep us informed how it develops.

beaniemac 10-21-2011 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winds-of-change (Post 603246)
I think just wait and see. I don't beleive answering "yes" to that question automatically denies you a FOID card, but I think it will merit a more intense background search. Being honest is a great plus for you. I think if you were involuntarily admitted amongst a scuffle with the police, etc. might disqualify you. But your circumstances are different. I wouldn't fret. I'll bet you get that FOID card. Please, keep us informed. I'm pretty confident you'll get that card.

if it had been that long , I would have answered "no" on those questions instead. and hoped they wouldn't find out.....

billt 10-26-2011 12:00 PM

I was born and raised in and around Chicago, Illinois. I lived (wasted) 38 years of my life there before I got smart, and got out of that socialistic $h!t hole. You have to properly align yourself as to how these people think in order to answer your question.

The whole "reason" of the F.O.I.D. System is to have an angle to DENY you your Second Amendment rights. It allows the state, (which has been run by socialists for decades), to screen potential gun buyers and owners in an attempt to deny them access to guns. In that regard my guess is you won't get this straightened out, unless you are willing to spend a great deal of money, and kick up a great deal of legal dust in the process.

They got you by the nuts because the words "guns", and "mental facility" don't go together well. Most people believe anyone who needs such help can never be trusted the way a "normal" person can. And for some like John Hinckley, and other mentally disturbed people who are prone to violence, that may in fact be true. The problem is you are being lumped in with people like him. Unfairly of course, but it makes your problem all the more difficult to solve. Especially from the eyes of socialistic democrats who don't want you to own a firearm in the first place.


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