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Old 12-25-2012, 05:52 AM   #141
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Regarding the title of this thread, if you carry into a properly posted GFZ in complete disregard for the posted signs, how are you any different than the millions of people who enter the country illegally?
Because the 2nd amendment to the constitution doesn't grant free access to the country.

The constitution is greater than any local law.
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Because the 2nd amendment to the constitution doesn't grant free access to the country.

The constitution is greater than any local law.
OK, fair enough. But the law must be ruled unconstitutional before that defense would really work, wouldn't it?
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OK, fair enough. But the law must be ruled unconstitutional before that defense would really work, wouldn't it?
It has been here. We don't have these so called free fire zones in Las Vegas.
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It has been here. We don't have these so called free fire zones in Las Vegas.
Gun free zones have been ruled unconstitutional in Vegas? I know in Reno had them (in theaters at least) back in August.
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Check you local laws, just because there is a sign posted doesn't make it so, if the state says you can legally posses a firearm then it may be "company policy" and they can ask you to leave however you can not be arrested. It must be posted a specific way and at specific points. Case in point Wal-Mart, they have about a thousand signs posted in front of there stores saying no firearms allowed, however none of them are posted within state or local law to make a "gun free zone." So while they can ask me to leave they can not however have me arrested and locked away forever like they would have you believe.

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Gun free zones have been ruled unconstitutional in Vegas? I know in Reno had them (in theaters at least) back in August.
Las Vegas requires metal detectors at each public entrance. So does Reno.

They can ASK you not to carry but they only legal penalty is trespassing after the catch you and ask you to leave and you refuse.

You must separate laws vs company's asking.
Not the same thing.

There is not a theater in Nevada that you will be charged with a crime for carrying concealed.
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Las Vegas requires metal detectors at each public entrance. So does Reno.

They can ASK you not to carry but they only legal penalty is trespassing after the catch you and ask you to leave and you refuse.

You must separate laws vs company's asking.
Not the same thing.

There is not a theater in Nevada that you will be charged with a crime for carrying concealed.
In some jurisdictions the penalties can be quite severe. This sort of plays into my analogy. In California if an illegal is identified my LE they oftentimes have no repercussions. Same dude in Arizona will get a different experience.
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Check you local laws, just because there is a sign posted doesn't make it so, if the state says you can legally posses a firearm then it may be "company policy" and they can ask you to leave however you can not be arrested. It must be posted a specific way and at specific points. Case in point Wal-Mart, they have about a thousand signs posted in front of there stores saying no firearms allowed, however none of them are posted within state or local law to make a "gun free zone." So while they can ask me to leave they can not however have me arrested and locked away forever like they would have you believe.
Kentucky is the same way, in Tennessee it's a felony.
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Check you local laws, just because there is a sign posted doesn't make it so, if the state says you can legally posses a firearm then it may be "company policy" and they can ask you to leave however you can not be arrested. It must be posted a specific way and at specific points. Case in point Wal-Mart, they have about a thousand signs posted in front of there stores saying no firearms allowed, however none of them are posted within state or local law to make a "gun free zone." So while they can ask me to leave they can not however have me arrested and locked away forever like they would have you believe.
different states have different laws. some states you are correct, all they can do is ask you to leave. some you can lose your CC permit and some you can lose your CC permit and be arrested. need to check your state laws before you carry into some place that prohibits it. just like bars and clubs, different states have different regulations.
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In South Carolina it is a felony, with automatic 5 years in prison. The legislature is working on overturning that and banning GFZ's altogether.

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