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Old 02-13-2013, 01:03 AM   #241
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Some people actually might so don't give em ideas.
Anyone persuaded to do so by my satire was never going to defend their rights IMO...
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You'll have to pardon me for my total lack of care about what anyone in the UK thinks about me and my lifestyle. It's been a very long time since anything British had any influence in how Americans do anything. And anyway, I thought we where overpaid, oversexed and over there that made y'all so uptight. I've read how well the Brits did with gun control and how well it works for them since. I know - I know, gun crime is all but gone now according to your media. And that British criminals have listened and followed the law.

Is there a market for escape hatch construction in UK homes? You know...In case of home invasion? I bet that would be a great business opportunity. Being you can't defend yourselves in your own home even with a bat.

I do wish though that more Americans would learn for your country's mistakes.

Now if you'll just take that asshat Morgan back we might be able to get along more. I grow so weary of people that do not live here telling us how we should live our lives. I get it, we're a nunch of inbred cousin raping stump jumpers that have no clue how to be civilized. All the more reason to just not deal with us. Leave us to our wild west lifestyles and bask in the glory that is being European and superior in every possible way. Now I'm going back to my shack and maybe out to the cee mint pond to rustle up some dinner...
Morgan is practically an American liberal citizen. He's yours my friend you can keep him. Oh and he's already influencing many of your countrymen. He's British but he doesn't represent us.

We are gonna round up the rest of the liberals over here and ship em out to you. You guys seem to love em; -p
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/13/heroic-super-dad-dies-protecting-his-11-year-old-daughter-from-armed-home-invaders/

This seems to me to be a very strong argument for the right of Americans to have firearms to make sure that they are "Secure in their persons, papers and effects." No where in the Constitution dose it say that federal government is required to protect me from other citizens. Point of fact, I believe that the SCOTUS has ruled that the police do NOT have the responsibility to protect the citizenry. I have come to the conclusion that it is my responsibility to protect myself and my family.

I however, don't think that any gooberment thugs will be coming to my door to steal my guns directly. I think that they will use much more insidious methods. My 14 year old daughter's doctor asked her if there were any guns in the house. My daughter, bless her, told the doctor "nope".
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Morgan is practically an American liberal citizen. He's yours my friend you can keep him. Oh and he's already influencing many of your countrymen. He's British but he doesn't represent us.

We are gonna round up the rest of the liberals over here and ship em out to you. You guys seem to love em; -p
Well hell! what about Australia? Brits sent undesirables over there for years. All tha tman does is rake in cash for pissing and moaning about how we are all so messed up. He has more use on that X factor show and that show had no use to me.
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Well hell! what about Australia? Brits sent undesirables over there for years. All tha tman does is rake in cash for pissing and moaning about how we are all so messed up. He has more use on that X factor show and that show had no use to me.
I think x factor type shows are a sickness that we all share which make star's out of a$$holes.
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This seems to me to be a very strong argument for the right of Americans to have firearms to make sure that they are "Secure in their persons, papers and effects." No where in the Constitution dose it say that federal government is required to protect me from other citizens. Point of fact, I believe that the SCOTUS has ruled that the police do NOT have the responsibility to protect the citizenry. I have come to the conclusion that it is my responsibility to protect myself and my family.

I however, don't think that any gooberment thugs will be coming to my door to steal my guns directly. I think that they will use much more insidious methods. My 14 year old daughter's doctor asked her if there were any guns in the house. My daughter, bless her, told the doctor "nope".
That seems like an impertinent question. I would have told the doctor to **** off...
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Being you can't defend yourselves in your own home even with a bat.
Not true but sure make it up as you go along.
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That seems like an impertinent question. I would have told the doctor to **** off...
I was on the road, fortunately. My wife and daughters played it cool and lied to them. We decided to switch my daughters to the doctor I use, he goes to the same range I like to go to.... The girls originally wanted a female doc. Now they are ok with my doc.
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I think the biggest mistake Americans can make about the British or Australians is to assume we are all Piers Morgans who don't know any better, can't think for ourselves, and buy into all the biased sh*t and propoganda that our lamestream media feeds us.

I dont fit into that category and I know a hell of a lot of others who don't. I can't see how resorting to ad hominems and piss taking of the British or vice versa is going to help anyone in America, I think we all agree on the major issues and a lot of the British gun owners are over here spreading the word for Americans freedoms but they will be met with a lot of dismay at some of the unessasary comments being made about us here. Someone needs to point the same out to the likes of Alex Jones who regularly alienates people that could be worth keeping on side.

We dont have much left to loose so an AWB or gun registration is of no consequence to us but I think we still do a lot to damage its support both here and within the US by getting involved. Just remember that I think we do all agree on the major points so lets not come to blows over what you will and won't do in hypothetical situations etc, that's just the sort of thing our actual enemies want to see. Be a bit more tolerable of different ideas, we might just be pointing out that some of the statements being made are likely to damage support... so don't think the intentions are bad and that we are jealous and would somehow like to see you in the same mire as we are.

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I think the biggest mistake Americans can make about the British or Australians is to assume we are all Piers Morgans who don't know any better, can't think for ourselves, and buy into all the biased sh*t and propoganda that our lamestream media feeds us.

I dont fit into that category and I know a hell of a lot of others who don't. I can't see how resorting to ad hominems and piss taking of the British or vice versa is going to help anyone in America, I think we all agree on the major issues and a lot of the British gun owners are over here spreading the word for Americans freedoms but they will be met with a lot of dismay at some of the unessasary comments being made about us here. Someone needs to point the same out to the likes of Alex Jones who regularly alienates people that could be worth keeping on side.

We dont have much left to loose so an AWB or gun registration is of no consequence to us but I think we still do a lot to damage its support both here and within the US by getting involved. Just remember that I think we do all agree on the major points so lets not come to blows over what you will and won't do in hypothetical situations etc, that's just the sort of thing our actual enemies want to see. Be a bit more tolerable of different ideas, we might just be pointing out that some of the statements being made are likely to damage support... so don't think the intentions are bad and that we are jealous and would somehow like to see you in the same mire as we are.
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