Originally Posted by manta
A post on the forum above. That would suggest that registration and permits are already in force in some states. Where were all the patriots and protests to stop it.
That member was from either Illinois, NY, or one of the other sates with gun owner registration. As we saw in the recent media release of gun permit holders addresses, most of these data bases are inaccurate and obsolete boondoggles.
Yes, we've seen it in a few state and there has not been violent revolt because within the US, there a 50 different states, will 50 different levels of gun liberties.
Anyone unwilling to live under this despotism has the option of moving to a gun friendly state... And many did. Or they registered to maintain a minimum level of armament and shipped their banned items out of state for friends or Familly to hold legally.
You are confusing our freedom of movement with compliance... Which is foolish.
The reason our system has had the success it has over the years is because all power not expressly granted to the Federal Government is reserved to the States and the People. This results in 50 laboratories of democracy where ideas are tried. Ideas that work get adopted by other States, ideas that don't get repealed...
Before you quip next about the lack of revolt at the last Federal AWB "1994 to 2004" let me remind you of a few thing.
1. The Grandfather Clause meant that in reality it banned NOTHING. It was hollow legislation that only mean your AR with a flash suppressor and collapsable stock cost you about $500 more than a newer rifle without these features.
2. It preceded the 24 hr new cycle and came at a time when 2A information was limited to news rack gun magazines and opposition correspondence was still primarily by letter.
Our nation has become far more polarized along the lines of personal liberties resulting in a situation where "most" of the people supporting gun bans to "save lives" also support the killing of 600,000 unborn children every year. And "most" of the people supporting gun rights respect all life, particularly unborn innocent life.
That not to say that if we had to power to ban abortion, we would... Several recent Republican presidents have had both houses of Congress and never moved in this direction. They didn't do it because while most of us oppose abortion... Most of us are unwilling to force our values upon others.
Our liberal adversaries do not share our respect for the rights of the opposition... and Americas 80 Million gun owners have recognized this. We have also recognized that there are NO acceptable levels of gun ownership our adversaries would ever accept. Each new "common sence" if passed, would only be followed by yet another "common sense" proposal down the road.
Our opposition will not stop until we are completely dissarmed... So why would we capitulate now? Why would we peacefully surrender the most valuable tools we have to prevent this?
The short answer is that we WON'T.
To a degree we can thank lemming gun owners like the British and Australians for helping to galvanize our side. Your capitulation and weakness, your willingness to kneel in exchange for the false promise of safety has show us that our liberals are no different and will not stop until out guns too, fall to the chop saws and melting pots... And the only legal guns lefts are registered and kept exactly where the Government can find them.
"those who beat their guns into plows... Will plow for those who did not"
"what make Americans different" you ask?
We've had the bennifit of watching your folly, we know that given our pourous borders and drug trade... Our "no gun" future would resemble Mexico's "no gun" reality... And above all else, our nation was born behind the muzzle of a gun discharging toward our enemies... We've no problem with preserving it in the same manner if forced to do so.
You, my dear friend Manta, have already been whipped... You and your countrymen have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found lacking.
Now, go sit down, drink some tea, and lamment the permanent loss of you manhood.