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Old 10-25-2013, 02:30 AM   #31
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i don't consider no compromise a position of strength.

if our admired founding fathers adopted a "no compromise" stance....do you think out glorious constitution and bill of rights would even exist?

if you know you're history, you would know the founders were the ultimate compromises and what come from their compromise...was greatness.

compromise IS strength.
When "compromise" erodes our rights, it most certainly is not strength. It's treason IMO.
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When "compromise" erodes our rights, it most certainly is not strength. It's treason IMO.
you have your rights BECAUSE of compromises. the BOR WAS a compromise to get the anti-federalists to enact the constitution.

compare the glory of the founding fathers compromise with the shattered government policies of "no compromise" today.

compromise is strength. when intelligent, passionate people meet in the middle, great things can happen....like the constitution.
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We have discussed this ad nauseum in the tail trail.

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We have discussed this ad nauseum in the tail trail.
that's plain mean, mccool......

i haven't thought about the trail in awhile...you think there has been any change in policy?

perfect example of no compromise....this horrid tail trail policy.....
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i agree. if they have served their time, and are safe to release back into society, then they should afforded all their rights, including that to own and possess a firearm. if they aren't deemed safe enough to own and possess a firearm, then they need to be kept locked up. seems simple enough to me.
i agree with this. unfortunately, this is not the way of our justice system. until it is, keep guns away from violent convicted felons.
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The line is what an infantry man has.
that's YOUR line. and i am close to, but not in complete agreement.

someone else's line might be far less or far more restrictive. THAT is the debate, where ever you might stand.
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that's YOUR line. and i am close to, but not in complete agreement.

someone else's line might be far less or far more restrictive. THAT is the debate, where ever you might stand.
If you read what the founding fathers wrote, I believe this to be their line as well when applied to modern times.
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It depends on what we call a compromise today. The facts are the Bill Of Rights is what I would call a line in the sand. The signers made it Damn clear before they would sign on there freedoms must be protected. The Constitution lays out the powers of the Federal Government. This left the individual American some what naked. The Bill Of Rights set forth the historical god given rights of men.

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I'd like this addition to the 2A:

"ANY politician who doesn't know what "infringed" means,

AND PROVES IT by trying to circumvent the 2A with

a gun control law, shall immediately lose his political

position, be dis-barred, and imprisoned for 25 years, confinement

WITH HARD LABOR, as a TRAITOR to the American public."

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If you read what the founding fathers wrote, I believe this to be their line as well when applied to modern times.
i agree for the most part. (i think infantry men have some weapons that should not be allowed to regular citizens though, like explosives)

and others have the right to draw the line where they interpret it, whether we agree or not. and that will be the continued debate on this subject.

i'm not saying your line is wrong, i'm saying the disagreement about the line is the heart of the debate.
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