Originally Posted by nitestalker
The Bill of Rights, "Got the Constitution done".
The Constitution became effective in 1789. The Bill Of Rights Became effective in 1791.
The Public Schools are teaching some revised history again.
you are right....it seems the BOR was more put in place because of the incredible protests created by states and anti-federalists who were protesting the constitution, which led to the BOR.
dates aside...the idea of compromise between opposite minded people played a HUGE part in the implementation of the BOR. if not for strong states objections and the anti-federalists....a BOR might not have been a part of the constitution.
federalists in general seemed to think a BOR would not be necessary as the constitution limited the government so much and they feared the BOR list might be incomplete, not covering all human rights. the federalists agreed to the idea of individuals rights, but likely would not have adopted the BOR without strong pressure from states and anti-federalists to do so.
so...yes...an agreement that there would be a bill of rights got the constitution ratified, based on the little
i have read."
During the period of debate over the ratification of the Constitution, numerous independent local speeches and articles were published all across the country. Initially, many of the articles in opposition were written under pseudonyms, such as "Brutus," "Centinel," and "Federal Farmer." Eventually, famous revolutionary figures such as Patrick Henry came out publicly against the Constitution.
They argued that the strong national government proposed by the Federalists was a threat to the rights of individuals and that the President would become a king. They objected to the federal court system created by the proposed constitution. This produced a phenomenal body of political writing; the best and most influential of these articles and speeches were gathered by historians into a collection known as the Anti-Federalist Papers in allusion to the Federalist Papers.In every state the opposition to the Constitution was strong
, and in two states — North Carolina and Rhode Island — it prevented ratification until the definite establishment of the new government practically forced their adherence. Individualism was the strongest element of opposition; the necessity, or at least the desirability, of a bill of rights was almost universally felt. In Rhode Island resistance against the Constitution was so strong that civil war almost broke out on July 4, 1788, when anti-federalist members of the Country Party led by Judge William West marched into Providence with over 1,000 armed protesters.
The Anti-Federalists played upon these feelings in the ratification convention in Massachusetts. By this point, five of the states had ratified the Constitution with relative ease, but the Massachusetts convention was far more bitter and contentious. Finally, after long debate, a compromise (known as the "Massachusetts compromise") was reached. Massachusetts would ratify the Constitution with recommended provisions in the ratifying instrument that the Constitution be amended with a bill of rights.
(The Federalists contended that a conditional ratification would be void, so the recommendation was the strongest support that the ratifying convention could give to a bill of rights short of rejecting the Constitution.)
Four of the next five states to ratify, including New Hampshire, Virginia, and New York, included similar language in their ratification instruments. As a result, once the Constitution became operative in 1789, Congress sent a set of twelve amendments to the states.
Ten of these amendments were immediately ratified and became known as the Bill of Rights, with one of the other two becoming the 27th Amendment—almost 200 years later. Thus, while the Anti-Federalists were unsuccessful in their quest to prevent the adoption of the Constitution, their efforts were not totally in vain. Anti-Federalists thus became recognized as an influential group among the founding fathers of the United States.With the passage of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, the Anti-Federalist movement was exhausted.
Some activists joined the Anti-Administration Party that James Madison and Thomas Jefferson were forming about 1790-91 to oppose policies of Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton they opposed; it soon became the Democratic-Republican party."