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Doug1627 02-26-2008 07:16 PM

I was "delayed" for a rifle purchase.
 
I went to pick up the Savage rifle today but I could not get it. The dealer said I am being "delayed". Is this a bad thing? I read online that they are most likely running a background check, is that true? BTW I live in Misouri.

Prior Mistameanors(sp??) as a juvenile are

Assualt-got in a fight at school
A couple of possesion of marijuana tickets while in high school
speeding tickets(they were all fixed by an attorney)

No arrest as an adult

Do any of the above incidents have anything to do with the delay?

bkt 02-26-2008 07:59 PM

Yeah, that can happen. If you have any priors or if the system is down or really slow, they'll flag a 'delay' and you might have to come back in a day or three. This happened to me when I bought my last rifle. The guy behind the counter called again after a few minutes and my NICS check went right through.

It sucks though, doesn't it?

It's a really good thing we don't need someone calling in and verifying that we may post information on forums like this. Yet.

Doug1627 02-26-2008 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bkt (Post 17510)
Yeah, that can happen. If you have any priors or if the system is down or really slow, they'll flag a 'delay' and you might have to come back in a day or three. This happened to me when I bought my last rifle. The guy behind the counter called again after a few minutes and my NICS check went right through.

It sucks though, doesn't it?

It's a really good thing we don't need someone calling in and verifying that we may post information on forums like this. Yet.

Sucks badly, I was so excited to get the rifle. A buddy and I had plans to try out our new firearms this weekend. He just picked up an m-4 carbine and Kimber 1911. Hopefully the NICS check will done in time to still do so.

Righteous 02-27-2008 12:21 AM

when i call the NICS I give the info to the first agent, she runs the check, if a flag comes up and she cant get the info then they transfer you to the FBI folks who do another check on there systems, if there still not enough information to proceed you they delay you and give your request a case number and someone will invesgate it, can take few mins up to few weeks. Sometimes if your not suspose to have one and get denied the FBI calls me back and gets your address and phone number and yes this happens alot.
If your really bad the FBI shows up at the store and takes the 4473 lol have has this happen a few times also. Once we run the first check theres nothing you can do to speed them up, they will not accept any more info aka: left your SSC# off and want to give it then they wont take it, they will not give any info other then telling me the status of your 4473.

scoutman 02-27-2008 12:22 AM

Have you been "delayed" or "denied" previously? How many firearms have you purchased from a dealer in the last 30 days? A delay can sometimes be because someone with a felony has a similar name/vitals. Providing your SS# can usually eliminate this possibility, but most people choose not to provide it as it is not mandatory. Righteous, you've had the feds show up at your place of business because of a "Deny"? Wow, glad that has never happened to me. The once a year inspections are enough of an inconvenience.

Dgunsmith 02-27-2008 01:00 AM

Giving your social security number solves many a delay and confusion......we all know how easily the FBI gets confused !

They dont store your SS#..it is erased..thats part of the Brady Law !

Zappa 02-27-2008 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgunsmith (Post 17546)
Giving your social security number solves many a delay and confusion......we all know how easily the FBI gets confused !

They dont store your SS#..it is erased..thats part of the Brady Law !

Just because it's part of the law dosen't mean anything nowadays. I still wouldn't trust them because they ARE they law and make their own rules.
I have a friend in NH who has held an FFL for many years and he outright stopped selling guns when the NICS check system went into effect. His reason was because he refused to give anybodys info to the FBI because he dosen't trust them. BTW, he's a former military special ops guy who knows a thing or two about how the government really works.

Zappa 02-27-2008 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug1627 (Post 17503)
I went to pick up the Savage rifle today but I could not get it. The dealer said I am being "delayed". Is this a bad thing?

Well, I don't see how it could be a good thing......
I went to a local gun show with a friend a few years back and he picked out a nice rifle to purchase. The dealer ran the NICS check and it too came back with the "delayed" response. My friend did NOT give his SS# so I'm sure that was part of it, but the real problem was his name, it was just too common. I won't say his name, but it's a very common Irish name and there must be thousands out there. There's over a hundred in the Boston phone book alone, and I'm sure that at least a few have broken a law or two......
Anyway, he went home from the show empty handed.
I, on the other hand, have a very UNcommon last name, with maybe only two dozen or so in the whole country. Therefore, my NICS check always goes through right away, even without the SS#.

Doug1627 02-27-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by scoutman (Post 17539)
Have you been "delayed" or "denied" previously? How many firearms have you purchased from a dealer in the last 30 days? A delay can sometimes be because someone with a felony has a similar name/vitals. Providing your SS# can usually eliminate this possibility, but most people choose not to provide it as it is not mandatory. Righteous, you've had the feds show up at your place of business because of a "Deny"? Wow, glad that has never happened to me. The once a year inspections are enough of an inconvenience.

I only have one other firearm, a handgun that was bought in a private sale. State laws do not require a background check for private sales where I live.

I got in touch with the NICS, he stated that my name is fairly common, that could be the reason for the delay or it could also be them checking out my assault charge to be sure it is not domestic violence.

I just hope I get approved.

Doug1627 02-27-2008 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dgunsmith (Post 17546)
Giving your social security number solves many a delay and confusion......we all know how easily the FBI gets confused !

They dont store your SS#..it is erased..thats part of the Brady Law !

They do have my SS#, I am just going to keep my fingers crossed hoping to get the rifle.


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