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Old 07-01-2013, 05:36 AM   #1
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Question How many crimes are committed with legal guns?

I want to know how often someone legally obtains a gun, and uses that gun to commit a violent crime.

I'm having trouble finding reliable statistics on this.

Number per year in America?

Their percentage of overall violent crime?

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I want to know how often someone legally obtains a gun, and uses that gun to commit a violent crime.

I'm having trouble finding reliable statistics on this.

Number per year in America?

Their percentage of overall violent crime?
T tried to research stats of that sort!! Strangely, I couldn't get any clear cut info!! There has to be a reason for that!
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The statistics may not be as clear cut as your question..

Example, I'm sure some firearms purchased legally are not intended for misuse, such as a crime of passion- husband or wife catching their beloved with another.
My guess would be only a small portion of ppl who commit violent gun crimes purchase the weapon with said crime in mind, I do not doubt it happens but my guess is most are committed with stolen or borrowed guns.
I could be way off base buts that my gut reaction to your question. Hence the lack if available statistic..

Someone once said 75.6% percent of statistics are made up anyways.. Go figure..

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The statistics may not be as clear cut as your question..

Example, I'm sure some firearms purchased legally are not intended for misuse, such as a crime of passion- husband or wife catching their beloved with another.
My guess would be only a small portion of ppl who commit violent gun crimes purchase the weapon with said crime in mind, I do not doubt it happens but my guess is most are committed with stolen or borrowed guns.
I could be way off base buts that my gut reaction to your question. Hence the lack if available statistic..

Someone once said 75.6% percent of statistics are made up anyways.. Go figure..
I agree!! You would have to think think that the true Criminals that make criminal activity a life style doesn't do much of anything legally. That's the long standing argument from all gun owners and CC holders!! Criminals will get there hands on weapons, despite what the law might say!! Therefore, we the people must never give up the right to bare arms!!
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I'm not concerned with details like motivations or time to crime.

I just want to know how many legal guns are used to commit violent crimes.

Of course the numbers will be very, very small. But how small?

This information should be much easier to find than it is.

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Here's a figure for Albany County, NY in 2012.

Answer: zero.

http://www.wgy.com/pages/chuckandkelly.html?article=11032452

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I'm not concerned with details like motivations or time to crime.

I just want to know how many legal guns are used to commit violent crimes.

Of course the numbers will be very, very small. But how small?

This information should be much easier to find than it is.
Even weapons stolen from gun shops were purchased at least once legally, by the gun shop. So without the details all gun crimes are committed by legally purchased guns.
The details are important, thus making the stats vague.
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I'm sure the details and specific nature of each crime make accurate stat keeping as difficult as the the ppl or groups that don't want the true facts and stats out in the open.

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Here's a figure for Albany County, NY in 2012.

Answer: zero.

http://www.wgy.com/pages/chuckandkelly.html?article=11032452
A very very small sample but a great example given the recent changes in NY

One of the comments at the bottom sums it, the stats are useless if the ppl that matter are not listening. I think we all know and agree the stats in no way support the gun grabbers actions or attempted actions.. The real issue is how to get ppl who listen into the important positions that matter.
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