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Old 01-23-2013, 01:48 AM   #1
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Question How Do I Find Out For Sure If Ammo Types Are Legal

I am wanting to find out if particular ammo types are legal. Is there a way to do this? I had ammo recommendations made to me by several policemen from other states than mine and just need to find out. Some of the ammo is labeled as LE (Law Enforcement), such as the Winchester Ranger LE but you can buy it online and I was told that is not a restriction just the name. Thanks.

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Old 01-23-2013, 02:02 AM   #2
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I'm in Indiana and I can't think of any ammo I'm not allowed to have.

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Winchester Ranger ammo is legal everywhere that I have been.

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If you can walk into a store and buy it, it's legal...

If you can buy it online from a legal dealer, it's legal...

If you buy it out of some guy's trunk in an alley...meh...that's on you...

I am not a lawyer...

Always know your states' laws...

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I bought several boxes of the Winchester Ranger T ammo that says Law Enforcement on it.I was concerned too and after I did a bunch of reading this is the conclusion I have come to.

Winchester Ranger ammo is essentially the same thing as Winchester PB1 which can be found in many sporting/outdoors stores. However, the PB1 will have a much higher pricetag. Probably around twice as much.

Both the Ranger T and the PB1 bullets were built/designed off of the old Winchester Black Talon bullets that were voluntarily pulled from the market back in the 90's due to publicity reasons. From what I have read, the Black Talons were a revolutionary new hollow point that did extraordinary damage to tissue compared to what was on the market at the time, and this did not win very many points with surgeons. In the past decade or so, most hollow points have used technology similar to those Black Talon and therefore the lethality of most have increased, IMO.

So down to the question at hand. Is it legal to buy and use the Winchester Ranger T (Law Enforcement) bullets? In everything I have read, yes. From my understanding, Winchester company will only sell those bullets directly to law enforcement as a matter of policy though. So when you are buying them online, you are buying from someone that is either a LEO or has connections to one.


(I am not a Lawyer and nothing in the above post should be construed as legal advice. Please consult a lawyer regarding any legal advice)

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I'm in Indiana and I can't think of any ammo I'm not allowed to have.
Oh believe me there are illegal rounds that have been banned in every state... it's basically because they are designed to do so much damage... i can't remember the name of the round i'm thinking of right now... something zer? the round basically mushroomed out with teeth on the outer edge when it expanded designed to saw and cut... there are definitely illegal rounds...
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the Black Talons were a revolutionary new hollow point that did extraordinary damage to tissue compared to what was on the market at the time, and this did not win very many points with surgeons.
this may be the round i was thinking of but i'm not sure... they banned talons i thought... not a voluntary thing...
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Isn't the point if a self defense round to cause so much damage that the threat stops with as few rounds as possible. The problem that comes into play are the so called "armor piercing" rounds that make a pistol cartridge able to penetrate a bullet resistant vest. If I could get my hands on some of the rounds that the "News" media uses I would. Who doesn't want a round that will hit cinder blocks so hard that it makes them seem like they were packed with explosives.

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I know Illinois does not allow certain speciality rounds but I'm pretty sure hollow points are legal in every state, I could be wrong though.

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I do not think they are legal in Jersey but I do not know for sure.

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