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**winds-of-change** · 02-19-2011, 10:40 AM

State Rep. Dan Beiser D-Alton here in Illinois is pushing to get a bill passed in Illinois allowing CCW. I heard it on the radio news last night and looked up a newspaper article to post here. Comments, anyone?

Beiser pushes for conceal and carry gun law | gun, law, alton - The Telegraph

Car54 · 02-19-2011, 12:20 PM

Wow, will wonders ever cease, and a democrat to boot. Hope the rest of the bunch get on board and pass this.

**winds-of-change** · 02-19-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Car54

Wow, will wonders ever cease, and a democrat to boot. Hope the rest of the bunch get on board and pass this.

Hahahaha! That's what I thought, too. A Dem.

**JTJ** · 02-19-2011, 02:06 PM

There is a difference between real Democrats and the Socialists posing as Democrats.

**robocop10mm** · 02-19-2011, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JTJ

There is a difference between real Democrats and the Socialists posing as Democrats.

I couldn't agree more! The most visible and vocal arm of the Democrat party is thinly veiled Socialism. There are a bunch of real Democrats that are "for the people". Many if not most of these Democrats are from rural areas.

**Sniper03** · 02-19-2011, 02:31 PM

Amen to that! Most Democrats today do not realize in general the Democratic party as it stands is not the true Democratic Party that our grandfathers belonged to. They are Progressive Socialists. And I believe with intent to destroy our Democracy and focus on a socialist country. That is why today I am a hard core independant and will vote for the person who stands up as a true American way and our freedom without giving the farm away for free. And also our Second Amendment Rights. God bless state representative Beiser. At least on Dem in Illinois has some B--ls!

freddy-b · 02-20-2011, 03:16 PM

Nothing initiated in Southern Illinois will ever materialize up north....You should know that by now.

**Sniper03** · 02-20-2011, 04:12 PM

Freddy,

I hate to say! But you are probably absolutely correct. In my opinion with the corruption of Chicago which ran over into the Whitehouse (The whole staff is attorneys) it most likely won't. I have been involved with the weapons manufacturing business in Illinois for a long time. Not to mention aging myself in Chicago with the Military during the 1968 Democratic Convention riots. But reference the weapons business. Springfield, Rock River Arms, Less Bear, Armalite, DSA and all of the weapons manufacturers who unfortunately are located in the Peoples Socialist Republic of Illinois have to be diligent. *In Chicago the progressive socialist rule not the rural Illinois citizens who are great folks and real Americans! Of course now they have maintained Chicago's corruption and also moved their agenda to the Whitehouse. Anyway, the companies had to got to Springfield, Illinois the Capital as a group at least twice or three times per year with all the corporate attorneys to defend the right to sell any AR or similar weapon in Illinois and to produce weapons. Costing the companies thousands and thousands of dollars every year to defend against the constant anti gun attacks. Finally Less Bear just moved across the state line into Iowa~ Moral of the story to get anything done up there will be like Moses parting the water. But when the government develops the giveaway programs like up there and other places in the us. How do you think they are going to vote! Not against their free ride for sure! Why do you think the are pushing this amnesty program so hard. More free rides (Socialism) and more votes to keep the food free food stamps, housing, medical and utilities!!! It is one thing to help people but another to establish a socialist agenda to control people and our vote! Sorry for the soap box approach but as stated unfortunately you are in all probability correct.
As you can tell like many others here on the FTF. I am one pis___d off American! And hopefully Americans will wake up before it is too late!

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