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Old 01-14-2013, 12:40 PM   #11
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Watch for the situation with the crazies doing more and more public shootings. Likely encouraged online by feds who scan the web for these idiots posting their fantasies. Then the feds give them encouragement and support to get them to do it. After a few more, our Mafioso-in-chief will declare martial law, and establish himself as dictator for life. May his life be short.

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Watch for the situation with the crazies doing more and more public shootings. Likely encouraged online by feds who scan the web for these idiots posting their fantasies. Then the feds give them encouragement and support to get them to do it. After a few more, our Mafioso-in-chief will declare martial law, and establish himself as dictator for life. May his life be short.
Are you refrring to the "Holy Caliph?"

Hussien Ali Obama?(May Allah bless his name)

Surely you blaspheme!
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Rand Paul said him and others in congress will fight any executive order from Obama that infringes on the 2nd amendment. And my local representative told me a executive order is highly illegal but he was pretty certain Obama will go through with one

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Just listened to Obama's news conference and here is a transcript of it. You'll have to scroll down to read the parts on gun control. He sounded uncomfortable talking about it and backpedaling a bit. Not enough in my view though. I would have posted the pertinent parts but I'm on my phone. Maybe one of you guys on a home computer could.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-obamas-news-conference-on-the-debt-ceiling-fiscal-battles-and-gun-control-jan-14-2013-transcript/2013/01/14/9bc1a690-5e65-11e2-90a0-73c8343c6d61_story.html

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Are you refrring to the "Holy Caliph?"

Hussien Ali Obama?(May Allah bless his name)

Surely you blaspheme!
If that's blasphemy, I'll take my chances and continue to do so.
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Congress likely wont pass any of the bills on the table....yet....so hold on folks as the President was said to have a decision by Tuesday

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The whole thing has Walmart putting the breaks on. It kind of makes you wander what Biden told them at their meeting.

http://m.cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/walmart-suspends-ammo-orders-pending-gun-control-decision

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The problem with this is that the Supreme Court hasn't adjudicated for years; they create laws. This means that if the Socialist in Chief uses EO's it's damn near written in stone. Court challenges just burn up time while the sheep get used to new laws. To add insult to injury, We the People get to pay for all the governments lawyers.
I agree with you 100% on this only thing I will add is by the time the Supreme Court has to decide he would have made sure the odds are in his favor one way or another. they are smart and they see how much **** they get away with so why not push for a lil more and see what happens
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I found this comment in NBC News as a reply to an article about how "scared" the residents of Oakland, Ca have become about gang shootings...

Drug
dealers and criminals love gun bans...

Dear
President Obama,

Let
me begin by saying that you can count on us to support your efforts in
disarming American citizens in any way we can.

The
Fast and Furious operation backfired a bit in this regard, but I’m glad to see
it hasn’t stopped you.

As
you know, we are making inroads on US soil. We’ve set up significant operations
in the Southwest, one area where armed citizens can be a bit of trouble to us,
especially if they own land we cross or are adjacent to.

We
view their disarming with a positive attitude. I would say your basic
gun-grabbing strategy is primarily aimed at the American West. The border
states need to be cleaned out. The fewer people there who have guns
(particularly those with high-capacity clips), the easier it is for us.

But
since our drug trafficking lines take in most of America, wherever citizens
aren’t armed we’re generally in better shape.

I’m
pleasantly surprised that media in your country haven’t pressed you to name the
areas where most gun violence is taking place. After all, if your objective is
to reduce that violence, you would think a campaign directed at gangs in inner
cities would rank number one on your to-do list.

Those
areas and those gangs do subcontracting work for us (and other Mexican
cartels). Leaving them in place is a priority for us. So congratulations on
being able to skirt this tricky issue. Your cojones are, indeed, huge.

Please
pass along my thanks to Brian Williams, Scott Pelley, and Diane Sawyer. I assume
they are in your pocket and carrying your message. Undoubtedly, they are also
refraining from bringing up the gang issue. Whenever I speak with the president
of Mexico, I point out your masterly and deft control of media as a model we
should emulate.

Now
to the real reason I’m writing. In Chicago, your crime stronghold, one of our
people is on trial. This is a sensitive matter, as you know.

Whenever I speak with
the president of Mexico, I point out your masterly and deft control of media as
a model we should emulate.

Now
to the real reason I’m writing. In Chicago, your crime stronghold, one of our
people is on trial. This is a sensitive matter, as you know.

The
defendant, Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla, wants to expose our arrangement. This
must not happen. So far, your DEA and CIA have managed to gain trial delays.

Niebla
and his lawyers are ready to offer documents that show the Sinaloa has US
federal permission to ship tons of drugs into Chicago, and from there to other
distribution points in the US.

Niebla
will reveal this deal was made so that Sinaloa would provide valuable
information on our rival cartels to the DEA and the FBI.

Therefore,
Niebla will point out that he has special immunity from prosecution. That was
part of the deal for high-ranking Sinaloa members.

Fortunately,
his trial hasn’t been played up in the American press. Again, well done.
Coverage has been stifled. It’s stayed on the back burner, and the CIA and DEA
are claiming no such immunity deal exists for Niebla.

But
at the same time, the CIA has been making motions in court to have documents
excluded from the trial on the basis of National Security.

This
is a gross tip-off to our deal, and it doesn’t sit well with me. It’s awkward.
I’m sure you agree, Mr. President.

The
last thing we need here is exposure, especially while you’re pushing forward
your gun-grabbing program.

Sinaloa
has members and agents and sub-contractors operating all over the US, and
naturally these people are armed. They not only sell drugs, they shoot people.
We can’t control everything they do.

They
get into intramural squabbles and use their weapons to settle disagreements.
Bodies pile up. Sometimes, innocent people are killed.

Our
subcontractors commit unrelated crimes that have nothing to do with drugs. They
rob, they steal, they shoot, they kill.

If
it comes out that Sinaloa and all its component parts, operating within US
borders, are contributing mightily to high gun-violence statistics—

And
if it comes out that Sinaloa has a special arrangement to do business in the US
without fear of disruption—

Your
gun-grabbing program and our operations will both be in dire jeopardy.

And
the blow-up in the press will be catastrophic for both of us.

You
and I understand this is just business, but other people don’t see it that way.

Therefore,
Mr. President, I’m stating, in the strongest terms possible, that the Niebla
trial in Chicago has to be shut down, one way or another.

Either
a quiet plea deal has to be struck, or we will be forced to do something
drastic. Soon.

If
I’m reading you right, and I believe I am, your gun-grabbing program is just
one step in an Operation Chaos aimed at destabilizing your country.

In
the past, we have contributed to that agenda, and we continue to do so. We
don’t pretend to understand this whole game at its higher levels, but to us
that doesn’t matter. We’re in business to make money and sell product.

We
support you.

And
we expect you to support us.

Congratulations
on achieving a second term in office. Please pass along my regards to President
Bush, his father, and President Clinton.

By
the way, in case you weren’t briefed on the specifics of the Aurora and Sandy
Hook shootings, I want to state, unequivocally, that no Sinaloa member provided
professional services in those operations, which were obviously aimed at
provoking a successful follow-up gun-control program.

Yours
truly,

XXXXXX

CEO,
Sinaloa

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We have at least one Congressman on our side.This was in a NBC news article on the web today:

Freshman Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Texas, has even threatened to introduce articles of impeachment.

"Any proposal to abuse executive power and infringe upon gun rights must be repelled with the stiffest legislative force possible,” he said in a statement. “Under no circumstances whatsoever may the government take any action that disarms any peaceable person — much less without due process through an executive declaration without a vote of Congress or a ruling of a court.”

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