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Old 03-07-2012, 05:14 PM   #41
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I just sent an email to them.
I copied the original post, following it up with...

As s long time Bass Pro Shops customer, including loyal Silverton Casino guest in Las Vegas, NV, I find this event very disheartening. A company with such an outward image of true American freedom ought to have a unified standing between it's stores in "firearm friendly" states and those in the less "firearm friendly" states. In fact, I would imagine it in your company's interest to be active in restoring America's second amendment rights in those areas, such as Illinois.

I regret to inform you that I can no longer be a patron to an establishment that will allow such conflicting policies within it's fleet. I find this confusing, and very questionable. However, I understand that such incidents may be localized and not apparent to the upper management of a corporation as large as Bass Pro Shops. I would expect that if this is the case, it will be made clear that Bass Pro Shops, while it should be obvious, supports all of it's legal firearm owning patrons, within legal boundaries, no matter what state they are from. I understand that there are many laws surrounding the firearm community but this is not within one I have ever heard of. Until this is made clear, I will not be visiting any BassPro store, Silverton hotel/casino or BassPro.com. I sincerely hope this is not taken lightly, as I feel this could be a stain on the mark of what I felt was a great American company. Please restore my patronage.

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Old 03-07-2012, 05:20 PM   #42
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I was not pretending to be you, Atari, so any form of compensation i will be sure gets redirected to you since you're the one who had to deal with the non sense in the first place.
I did the same. I seriously doubt the upper management is aware this is going on. I am certain they will crush this very quickly and we will all go back to BPS with a happy smile. They are too invested in the firearms community to support this radical individual's "law". I wish we had a name though, to really get an answer.
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Old 03-07-2012, 05:31 PM   #43
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I'm done with BPS until this is resolved. Please post any corporate responses you guys get.

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Old 03-07-2012, 06:26 PM   #44
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i will say this about the matter, that these types of incidents are not isolated and probably happen everyday. to get the attention of the big chain stores, you have to hit them where it hurts, their profits. if they think it's only a few isolated cases, then more than likely they will do nothing but give you a bunch of, "well i'm sorry this happened" but nothing will change. to have them change, then you have to hit them where it hurts. a decreasing profits and bad publicity is what gets their attention. boycotts, petitions, many, many letters and emails from patrons who will take their business elsewhere, and they will change. when they see a decrease in profits, going to a competitor, they will change. if it's one store with a manager with a personal agenda, he will be either shown the light or replaced. big chain stores and corporations are driven by money and profits, pure and simple, and this is where we need to pull our support here as members and tell them we will boycott them. there are thousands and thousands of members here on this forum, and if we refuse to do business with Bass Pro Shops and others in support of fellow members because of this stupidity, we can hit them where it hurts, their profits.
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:33 PM   #45
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Default Here is what I received back from BPS

Larry L. Whiteley lwhiteley@basspro.com
1:24 PM (1 hour ago)

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Thank you for your e-mail and I thank you for standing up for our 2nd amendment rights as we have always done and will continue to do.
In regards to gun policies at our stores, our company policy is to follow the gun laws in the state in which that store is in as they vary across the country.
Below is what we have been told by the Illinois State Police

Residents of bordering states can purchase long guns and ammo.
Inter-changeable ammo such as 9MM for long guns and hand guns is okay, if
the customer is purchasing at same time as firearm purchase. Nothing in
writing stating that, use your best judgment. Better not to sell 9MM,
7.62MM to non-residents, impossible to determine their use. Same applies
to those not from bordering states, if they purchase a non-resident hunting
license first for long guns or ammo. No hand gun ammo in Illinois for
non-residents. Be all that you can be!

----- Forwarded by Mark Marston/IlStPolice on 10/05/2011 12:28 PM -----

So, as you can see, this is the rule we are following. It is not our rule!


Larry L. Whiteley
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Manager of Communications
lwhiteley@basspro.com
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1:29 PM (1 hour ago)

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Forgot to say we have no idea where the Wisconsin right to carry fits in because that has nothing to do with this.



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From: Larry L. Whiteley
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:25 PM
To: 'scott.alan.anderson.2@gmail.com'
Subject: forum


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Larry-

I hoped you would have responded that the policy was implemented locally by an over-zealous store manager and corporate would take measures to rectify the situation. I cannot express how disappointed I am to learn corporate endorses this policy. Your reasoning does not make sense. I live on the border in Iowa and routinely buy ammunition in Illinois. Just two weeks ago, I purchased several boxes of 9mm, and 5.56 from Cabelas in Hoffman Estates. I can find no law in the Illinois code which restricts ammunition sales to out of state residents. You appear to be implementing a policy out of ignorance, and this is not beneficial for gun owners at all.

You have provided no good reason why you have implemented this policy. I will no longer be a customer of Bass Pro Shops, and I will work to spread word to as many gun owners as possible to stay away from Bass Pro Shops until you change your ways.

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Old 03-07-2012, 08:06 PM   #46
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why oh why did it have to be a corporate policy?

That pisses me off so bad
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Because of members of THIS FORUM - Bass Pro Shops have reversed their anti-2nd Amendment policies on ammunition sales in the State of Illinois
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:18 PM   #47
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Scott, I too received the exact same email as you have, along with a telephone message which I have not returned yet, that message was from some hunting dept person at the Gurnee location, my question is, is this information from the Illinois State police coming from a State law or is this just some assbag at the state police trying to pressure a store with bs "policy" to not allow out of state handgun ammo sales.
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the police response says it is "better" not to sell 9mm or 7.62 mm to out of state and there is no handgun ammo sales to out of state. It is better seems to be opinion not fact and 7.62 is not handgun ammo, sounds like a crock of s**t to me
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the police response says it is "better" not to sell 9mm or 7.62 mm to out of state and there is no handgun ammo sales to out of state. It is better seems to be opinion not fact and 7.62 is not handgun ammo, sounds like a crock of s**t to me
Actually 7.62 is pistol ammo (7.62 Nagant, NOT 7.62x39 or 7.62x54R)

It's still a crock of s**t though.
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:50 PM   #50
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Well there goes my trip to that Gurnee Bass PRO! I use to drive 4 hours just to go shopping there a couple of times a year. Now I can save my gas and toll money
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