[corrinavatan]

Originally Posted by pandamonium

Come on guys, every one of you know this has absolutely nothing to do with how many rounds a mag can hold. It is, and always is, about CONTROL, period.
As Corrinavatan stated, there are hundreds of thousands of "hi-cap" mags out there. How often do we hear about some nut-case going on a spree killing? This is just another attempt throw more legislation out there.

As far as I can figure, it isn't us conservatives that keep electing these socialist/democratic megalomaniacs into office! It is the SHEEPLE out there who have a conditioned need to be CONTROLLED!

Well, I do think that there is SOME actual, true concern by a few of the people involved with the bill. I mean, if I could do something that would guarantee 100% that something like what happened in Tuscon would never happen ever again EVER, I'd do it.

But, there are quite a few things that make "legislating" the problem impossible.

1. There will always be über-crazy people who want to go on killing rampages, and who will go under the radar of the psychiatric help they need.
2. As long as anyone can get ANY gun, criminals will use them to kill others. Take away the gun, and you have the situation like in Akihabra, Japan, guy rammed a car into a crowd and started stabbing people, killed 10, just with a regular old knife. Why didn't he use a gun? Because in Japan, it's nearly impossible to get one.

[CHLChris]

Originally Posted by corrinavatan

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I'm impressed. I don't even know how to make that symbol.

[corrinavatan]

Originally Posted by CHLChris

I'm impressed. I don't even know how to make that symbol.

I have a Mac, so it's just Alt+U. I also have a degree in German Language and Literature, so, it's kind of expected of me to know it :-P.

Also, this ban, if it is like the old one, won't stop someone from buying the PARTS to make said magazines (because they'd allow you to repair what you have, right?) So you just buy all the parts you need to repair your "broken" one, and bam, you have a high cap magazine.

I don't think people realize how very easy it is for a person to go on a killing spree, gun or no gun. I remember hearing about some loco in Denmark about six years ago, killed five people in the cubicles of the office he worked in BEFORE ANYONE EVEN REALIZED HE WAS KILLING PEOPLE. He just used a knife and cut their throats from behind, killed another six people before police finally got to him and shot him.

I think people would prefer to think that they're safe, and have laws that make it illegal to own this and that, and supposedly that will make everyone safe, but to be blunt, the only things that keep people from going on killing rampages are fear of the consequences and fear of death, and hopefully some sort of morality system.

However, take those three things away, either by desperation, insanity, or some combination of other factors, and human beings aren't any safer in their high-rise offices than they are in the streets of Afghanistan.

It's kinda depressing to say out loud, but unfortunately, until Rapture or whatever "event" will supposedly make all of humanity not have to worry about morals and ethics anymore, any system of thought that assumes that everyone will ALWAYS adhere to the law/higher power/good morality is fundamentally flawed.

[pandamonium]

People have been killing people for as long as.......well, as long as there have been people, regardless of what the law is. I think that's just how humans are. Seems to me, with the swollen human population we have, statistically, there will be more killings per capita. And the information network we have ensures that everyone knows about them. Given the right circumstances anyone can become a killer.