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TekGreg 07-24-2012 07:43 AM

Gun Free Zone liability - Are business owners responsible?
 
Should people responsible for creating Gun Free Zones (GFZs) also be liable for any deaths or injuries it causes? There are some sites that have started discussing the liability of city officials or business owners creating GFZs and not allowing legally licensed people to defend themselves to their own detriment. What happens when the theater owners in Aurora, CO. get sued by people that had CCWs and weren't allowed to carry? Do these owners and their insurance companies carry a GREATER responsibility for creating a life-threatening GFZ?

What are your thoughts?

texaswoodworker 07-24-2012 08:01 AM

Absolutely. I think they should be held completely responsible for what happens in gun free zones.

RJMercer 07-24-2012 08:05 AM

I'm with Tex.

TekGreg 07-24-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by texaswoodworker
Absolutely. I think they should be held completely responsible for what happens in gun free zones.

I wonder if it would be worth it for a pro-NRA or pro-gun attorney to do a class action lawsuit in the name of all the disarmed citizens. THAT would put it front page in the paper!

JeeperSC 07-24-2012 08:33 AM

I don't think a business should be held liable in that case. Because I feel a private business owner should have the right to not allow someone on their property for any reason, even because of a gun.

At the same time, I don't think it should be a 'criminal matter' or even a violation of your Concealed weapons license for bringing your gun into a business that forbids them. It should be as simple as the business owner/employee asking you to leave the property. And if you refuse to leave it then becomes trespassing.

armsmaster270 07-24-2012 09:19 AM

I'm with the Sue Them crowd if you cause injury or death by your policy you should pay.

towboater 07-24-2012 10:02 AM

NO.

If a buisnes owner is responsible for deaths due to gfz.
The owner will also be responsible for any deaths caused from allowing concealed carry.
And if that's the case. I sure ain't gonna have a business.

steve4102 07-24-2012 11:48 AM

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What happens when the theater owners in Aurora, CO. get sued by people that had CCWs and weren't allowed to carry?
The theater owners in Aurora CO had nothing to do with the Gun Free Zone. The entire city of Aurora CO is a gun free zone. That's right, it is illegal to carry anywhere in the city of Aurora.

The City of Aurora, Colorado would have arrested anyone who stopped the Batman massacre with a concealed weapon.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036549_Aurora_concealed_carry_gun_confiscation.htm l

bkt 07-24-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeperSC (Post 880081)
I don't think a business should be held liable in that case. Because I feel a private business owner should have the right to not allow someone on their property for any reason, even because of a gun.

At the same time, I don't think it should be a 'criminal matter' or even a violation of your Concealed weapons license for bringing your gun into a business that forbids them. It should be as simple as the business owner/employee asking you to leave the property. And if you refuse to leave it then becomes trespassing.

Exactly right. Also, as a consumer you have a choice to avoid commercial establishments with a GFZ policy.

steve4102 07-24-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bkt (Post 880147)
Exactly right. Also, as a consumer you have a choice to avoid commercial establishments with a GFZ policy.

So, what do you do when your entire city becomes a GFZ?


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