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Default Gun Control Laws to Blame For California’s Rise in Crime

Gun Control Laws to Blame For California’s Rise in Crime
December 1, 2012 by Philip Hodges

The city of San Bernardino is feeling the effects of California’s restrictive gun laws. The 50% increase in crime compared to last year is being blamed on a dwindling police force that’s being subjected to cuts because of the city’s bankruptcy. That may be part of it because people have perhaps grown dependent on the police to provide protection. But California’s gun control laws are some of the worst in the nation.

In order to get a carry concealed weapon license (CCW), you have to convince the police department in your interview with them that you actually have “good cause” to carry a gun. Saying that you need one for general self-defense is not good enough. Your life has to be in imminent danger, and you have to be able to prove it to them.

Out of the 2 million residents in San Bernardino County (San Bernardino city sits in the southwest corner of the county), only 2,800 have been allowed CCW’s by the county’s police department.

Unlike most other states, California’s state constitution doesn’t even address possession of guns. It doesn’t grant its citizens the right to bear arms. You’d think the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution addresses that issue enough to apply to all states, but that’s one issue where liberals blithely bring up the importance of states’ rights.

In a recent San Bernardino city council meeting called by one of the council members to address the citizens’ concerns of rising violence, the city attorney Jim Penman spoke candidly about the issue. He drew fire when he told attendees to “lock your doors and load your guns.” He reiterated to the local CBS station:

“Let’s be honest, we don’t have enough police officers. We have too many criminals living in this city. We have had 45 murders this year…that’s far too high for a city of this size.”

Meanwhile, the same is happening in Oakland, where officials say that they’ve experienced a 43% increase in burglaries compared to last year. Again, they’re claiming it all has to do with the police officers that are being let go because of budgetary problems. CBS reports:

“According to the latest numbers from the Oakland Police Department, more than 11,000 homes, cars or businesses have been broken into so far this year – translating to about 33 burglaries a day. The most popular targets have been cars with more than 5,700 burglarized so far this year… One of the most likely reasons for the sharp uptick in crime – city officials said they believe it’s the gradual loss of police officers from the force.”

If California would legalize the Second Amendment, the crime rate would decrease, and there wouldn't be a need for a large police force.* Just look at Kennesaw, Georgia, which passed an ordinance in 1982 that required every household to own a gun. The crime rate dropped 50% between then and 2005, and it continues to drop. In fact, it has the lowest crime rate in the U.S. But don’t bring that up with liberals. They go ballistic.

*emphasis added - cane
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This applies to New York, Illinois, and Washington D.C. too.

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This applies to New York, Illinois, and Washington D.C. too.
Ah....all the libretard bastions.
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Don't have that problem in Wyoming. Or Montana. Or utah. Or Idaho. Or...... Well, you get the picture.

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VA is a great gun ownership state!

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NJ sucks BIG TIME TOO!

NJ GOP Gov. Chris "Krispy Kreme" Christie doesn't seem too interested in changing NJ laws in favor of gun purchasers or owners either!

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The sad fact in Ca is that when you defend yourself with a firearm against a criminal you risk going to prison.

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NJ sucks BIG TIME TOO!

NJ GOP Gov. Chris "Krispy Kreme" Christie doesn't seem too interested in changing NJ laws in favor of gun purchasers or owners either!
You gotta love the Mark Levin names for politicians. Come on over to PA
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Every year, 24/7 Wall St. conducts an extensive survey of all of 50 states in America. Based on a review of data on financial health, standard of living and government services by state, they determine how well each state is managed.

Guess which state was determined to be the worse run?

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NJ sucks BIG TIME TOO!

NJ GOP Gov. Chris "Krispy Kreme" Christie doesn't seem too interested in changing NJ laws in favor of gun purchasers or owners either!
Of course not. If he pushed a pro-gun bill in the NJ legislature it would never get out of committee.

And the NJ press would crucify him.

In most cases the legislature does what the voters want them to do. That's how they get re-elected. MOST VOTERS in places like NJ, NY, Mass, Kali etc support gun control

You can't blame the politicians, on this issue. They're doing what the voters want them to do.
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