Originally Posted by vincent
The job of the police is to enforce the law, hence the term 'Law Enforcement'. How can a law be enforced unless it has been broken?
The job of police is to collect evidence, interview witnesses and locate suspects...all AFTER the fact...
Yet a whole lot of folks insist the job of LE is to protect them. I can't think of a more elitist attitude to take. Some people really think that their lives are so much more valuable than those whose 'job' it is to protect them...
I'll just say 'Let me know how that works out for ya..."....
^^^^^ Yes to that!!!
Kinda like folks mis-belief that the military is there to protect the Citizen; its not! The US Military has one thing it must protect the Constitution of the USA, not the people. If we were to defend people, that would be picking sides and were not supposed to have a horse in that race.
911 has been sold to us as the first response against criminals when it was never designed to be that, ever. Until the day you can instantly Beam a Cop into your Living room, all its good for is Health Emergencies and Reporting a crime after its happened (if you survive)!
Law Enforcement is pretty easy to define but the grey comes in when they initiate crime prevention tactics. How do you prevent a crime that hasnt happened without the possibility of violating someones rights?
NYC has had a Stop and Frisk (all an officer has to say is the frisky was acting suspicious, he/ she doesnt need probable cause) policy since Rudy ran it and its been correlated with diminishing crime by double digits. Is removing ones right to privacy, rights against illegal search and seizure and other freedoms worth the safety they promise if we submit? Not for me!
They have no right to change the basis of rules, only the environment that criminals fester in after they become such! Ive read the Constitution, The Bill of Rights and other founding principles for our Republic, not a single one recognizes the "For Our Own Good" clause as legitimate law of the land. Either change it using the rules that control our rights (Constitutional Convention) or follow the rules as they were created, there is no middle ground on this.