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Old 08-26-2014, 03:45 PM   #1
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Default Gun Ban defeated in Baton Rouge

They had a pretty serious restriction on carrying that has been defeated in court. Oops, the title is missing the word "ban'.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/08/25/ban-on-guns-in-places-that-sell-alcohol-including-supermarkets-and-service-stations-and-their-parking-lots-struck-down-on-second-amendment-grounds/
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Old 08-30-2014, 01:12 AM   #2
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Sweet! Always glad to see crap like this overturned.
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i've always thought it should be illegal for a person to carry a firearm CC or otherwise while intoxicated or on any drug that could impair their judgment....meaning ONE drink should be a serious offense if they are carrying a firearm. price you pay for a heavy responsibility imo. i assume most would agree with this sentiment.

but i will never agree that CC should be illegal where alcohol is sold or served. it is the responsibility of the person carrying the firearm to do it responsibly imo. what other people are doing is truly insignificant.
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i've always thought it should be illegal for a person to carry a firearm CC or otherwise while intoxicated or on any drug that could impair their judgment....meaning ONE drink should be a serious offense if they are carrying a firearm. price you pay for a heavy responsibility imo. i assume most would agree with this sentiment.

but i will never agree that CC should be illegal where alcohol is sold or served. it is the responsibility of the person carrying the firearm to do it responsibly imo. what other people are doing is truly insignificant.
as far as alcohol and firearms, i think the guidelines used for vehicle should apply. if you are too intoxicated to drive, you are more than likely too intoxicated to be carrying a firearm.
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a good starting point, but i think those carrying a gun should be held to an even higher standard.

why? easy. a car isn't a self defense weapon. you don't get in a car with the possibly of having to decide if you will use it to take a life to defend another. so comparing a car to a gun in THIS way isn't quite an apple to apple comparison.

when you carry a tool that is intended to potentially be used with deadly force in self defense, one should have NO impairment imo. not one beer. no good could come of it for anyone, especially the CC or OC carrier who had to defend themselves. i promise you it would be used against them, legally drunk or not. and honestly, i think it should be.

whether the law allowed it or not. i would not drink one drop if i chose to carry a firearm in ANY way. just mo.

truthfully, i would say more than ONE drink should merit a DWI in a car as well....i'm not a fan of putting others in serious risk of deadly harm so someone else can have a good time. not. worth. it.

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i've always thought it should be illegal for a person to carry a firearm CC or otherwise while intoxicated or on any drug that could impair their judgment....meaning ONE drink should be a serious offense if they are carrying a firearm. price you pay for a heavy responsibility imo. i assume most would agree with this sentiment.

but i will never agree that CC should be illegal where alcohol is sold or served. it is the responsibility of the person carrying the firearm to do it responsibly imo. what other people are doing is truly insignificant.
In Oklahoma, the law is clear that the restriction is on carry in places where alcohol is consumed. Places like liquor stores, grocery stores, etc. are NOT restricted (unless by the owner). Even restaurants are NOT restricted as long as their main focus is selling food.
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in texas, as i understand it, you may enter where they sell alcohol. but NOT any place that gets over half its revenue from serving alcohol.

don't really agree....if someone is a designated driver (or they just don't drink), why shouldn't they be allowed to carry in a bar if they DON"t drink? i think its the impairment of the CC holder to be worried about myself. what other people do shouldn't really matter imo.
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Wisconsin doesn't have this problem. In the state that has the highest number of drunk driving offenses, cc in bars and drinking while cc has been legal for years.
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in texas, as i understand it, you may enter where they sell alcohol. but NOT any place that gets over half its revenue from serving alcohol.

don't really agree....if someone is a designated driver (or they just don't drink), why shouldn't they be allowed to carry in a bar if they DON"t drink? i think its the impairment of the CC holder to be worried about myself. what other people do shouldn't really matter imo.
I can see that line of reasoning. I think that a bar, where people who are not designated drivers can get drunk, is a higher opportunity for an aggressive argument.

Scenario: Designated driver orders water or some virgin drink. Confrontational drunk overhears and questions manhood of driver, tries to get him to have a "real" drink, won't take no for an answer. Words, pushes, pretty soon the driver has a choice to make that he would not have to make if he were not in that situation.

Perhaps that sort of situation is what the lawmakers are trying to minimize by restricting firearms where alcohol is consumed. Just a thought.
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