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Old 06-21-2011, 01:26 AM   #11
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Hopefully the lesson the other 6 learned is: You never know who's carrying and who they'll pick to go first. If enough citizens would do this, criminals would be so scared to try this with anyone.
That is my hope anyway.

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Old 06-21-2011, 01:37 AM   #12
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You aren't going to be getting of ANY shots if you don't have situational awareness.

This guy got cold cocked. He could have been carrying IGETEVEN, a can of Tango and a Robo keychain, it would not have made any difference what so ever because he was not aware of his environment and doing threat assessment.

Carrying a loaded weapon doesn't mean you are going to win the encounter.

Knowing with the hell is going on BEFORE it happens is going to drastically increase your odds in any situation.

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Old 06-21-2011, 04:02 AM   #13
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You aren't going to be getting of ANY shots if you don't have situational awareness.

This guy got cold cocked. He could have been carrying IGETEVEN, a can of Tango and a Robo keychain, it would not have made any difference what so ever because he was not aware of his environment and doing threat assessment.

Carrying a loaded weapon doesn't mean you are going to win the encounter.

Knowing with the hell is going on BEFORE it happens is going to drastically increase your odds in any situation.

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Well we are assuming that the person who defends himself is aware.
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You aren't going to be getting of ANY shots if you don't have situational awareness.

This guy got cold cocked. He could have been carrying IGETEVEN, a can of Tango and a Robo keychain, it would not have made any difference what so ever because he was not aware of his environment and doing threat assessment.

Carrying a loaded weapon doesn't mean you are going to win the encounter.

Knowing with the hell is going on BEFORE it happens is going to drastically increase your odds in any situation.

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All I know is that I want a Robo keychain. K?
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Wow!

That really pisses me off.

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You aren't going to be getting of ANY shots if you don't have situational awareness.

This guy got cold cocked. He could have been carrying IGETEVEN, a can of Tango and a Robo keychain, it would not have made any difference what so ever because he was not aware of his environment and doing threat assessment.

Carrying a loaded weapon doesn't mean you are going to win the encounter.

Knowing with the hell is going on BEFORE it happens is going to drastically increase your odds in any situation.

JD
Couldn't have said it better.

When I'm downtown working I end up in a lot of parking garages. I damn well make sure that I'm constantly scanning to see if anyone is around. Of course, I do this regardless of location.
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What of the guy walking out the hall looking back at this attack?
Did he call 911 on these animals? Or run the other way with a
pocket full of patriotism?

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What of the guy walking out the hall looking back at this attack?
Did he call 911 on these animals? Or run the other way with a
pocket full of patriotism?
Appears he just walked on by.
Dillinger nailed it, situational awareness. That makes all the difference between becoming a victim, or not.
Had the passer-by been a CCW holder, he could have chosen to act. He may have called police when he got clear of the situation. It isn't clear who informed the police.
If an armed citizen had acted, chances are they would have gotten in hot water because the punks were not armed, in this idiotic society.
But the primary reason the victim became a victim will remain until the victim decides to make a change in himself. Or dies being a victim.
Next time he may be wounded or killed... just for the "fun" of it.
I noticed that the area was "well lit". So all that served to do was make it easy for the city owned camera to get a good picture.

And then, are we sure this wasn't staged?
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That certainly appears to be a "Hate Crime". I doubt it was filed as such though. Reverse the ethnicities and it certainly would have been all over the news as a hate crime.

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With cowardly kids like that, one shot ....aimed anywhere would have drove them off in a pee-soaked scurry. The video is actually a great argument for concealed carry.

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Did anyone notice the race of everyone of the kids?



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