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Old 02-23-2012, 09:44 PM   #41
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God help me should I ever meet this type of cop...No way I served 6 year, 2 overseas tours, and literally broke my back in the process to put up with and ass clown in blue. No way.

Fortunately or LEO's out west don't yet seem to have thier heads lodged in their asses.

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Very true. It could have been just the time I let my Border Collie out for a romp. He LOVES to chase and catch anything fast moving. But then I'd probably be fined for having my dog off leash.




Have you seen this video? The father died on the way to the hospital. And what ass would keep videoing while toddler plays with a gun? I would have lunged to get that gun away from that kid. I also think the gun hit the kid in the forehead after he shot it.

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I thought this was a video of Muslim birth control? Little Johney Jihad just made sure daddy can't father and daughter to abuse before selling her off to the highest bidder.
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Dont get me wrong i dont think he should have been arrested or his guns taken. But he should face civil fines for discharging a firearm recklessly if and only if he is in a city or town that prohibits discharging firearms in such a manner.

Woulda been better to have shot the sob than fired a warning shot.
I'm with downsouth on this one. Nothing reckless about putting a pistol round into your lawn. The notion that he should have shot the perp is also ridiculous.

If it took a warning shot to gain compliance and end the ordeal with the BG in cuffs and NO bloodshed then so be it. That's a good day.

The arresting LEO's are the joke in this story. Were I an LEO, Id be calling for thier badges, not making lame excuses for their incompetence.

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I'm with downsouth on this one. Nothing reckless about putting a pistol round into your lawn. The notion that he should have shot the perp is also ridiculous.

If it took a warning shot to gain compliance and end the ordeal with the BG in cuffs and NO bloodshed then so be it. That's a good day.

The arresting LEO's are the joke in this story. Were I an LEO, Id be calling for thier badges, not making lame excuses for their incompetence.

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I'm with downsouth on this one. Nothing reckless about putting a pistol round into your lawn. The notion that he should have shot the perp is also ridiculous.

If it took a warning shot to gain compliance and end the ordeal with the BG in cuffs and NO bloodshed then so be it. That's a good day.

The arresting LEO's are the joke in this story. Were I an LEO, Id be calling for thier badges, not making lame excuses for their incompetence.

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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/update-felony-charges-dropped-against-nh-man-who-fired-warning-shot-during-burglary/

Well the spinless priques are dismissing charges against MR. Flemming. The outcry was simply too much for the district attorney. Oh, he did not say that in the prepared press release, but it is clear that was the deciding factor that turned the tide against these abusers.

Like water over a rock, these azzholes are eroding my respect for the authorities that have sworn an oath to our constitution. I know there are good people who serve us daily, standup against those who smeer your service. The day is comming when you will have to stand on one side of a line or another. You will need to be grounded in what you think is right.
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The cops probably arrested him because they feel the American law abiding citizens have to do they're job for them because they are to incompetent to do it themselves. That is effed up. I wouldn't arrest him but I would make sure his gun was legal. That's about it. It would be so hard for me to let a BG get off with my stuff he tried to steal. I probably would've shot a round in the ground to stop him too. If u think about it. Will the cops actually catch him if the guy didn't stop him. Probably not.
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I'm with downsouth on this one. Nothing reckless about putting a pistol round into your lawn. The notion that he should have shot the perp is also ridiculous.

If it took a warning shot to gain compliance and end the ordeal with the BG in cuffs and NO bloodshed then so be it. That's a good day.

The arresting LEO's are the joke in this story. Were I an LEO, Id be calling for thier badges, not making lame excuses for their incompetence.

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do you think it is a good idea to crank off rounds into the ground or the sky or whatever as a method of self defense??

there was a good outcome but consider if that round had of hit a rock under the dirt and plunked into the skull of one of his 14 grandkids...

my point is that it is not beyound justice to fine him for reckless discharge when he was likely in no danger. since he did not see sufficient threat to shoot the guy he should not have shot his gun off.

no use of force class or ccw training i have ever taken or even heard off directs a citizen to crank off rounds in a random direction to "scare" people.
Firing rounds into the air is NEVER a good idea, but doing what he did worked.

You can "suppose" till the cows come home but it doesn't mean it happened. Fact is he didn't fire into the sky, hit a rock and ricochet into one of his grandkids or have black gold come bubblin' out of the ground. Fact is none of that happened.

It is also a fact that the best training classes on the planet do not and cannot prepare for every isolated circumstance, and Grandpa may not have had any training at all. He did not "crank off rounds in a random direction to "scare" people", he fired one single round into the ground in front of himself (presumably) as a warning that he was armed with a gun and was willing to use it in order to get the bad guy to stop and comply with his orders.

JonM, what would you do if you were faced with a situation that was not covered in your extensive training (or perhaps a perp who has not been through the same training)? Call your instructor? Wet your pants? Or improvise, adapt and overcome? Personally I would hope that I would do the latter.

Again, Grandpa apprehended the bad guy and held him without injury until the police arrived. I see nothing wrong with that. The only thing that went wrong in my opinion was Grandpa's arrest.
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