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Old 07-07-2012, 06:18 PM   #41
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Remington Arms In Illion NY just got a huge contract with the Army for 84 million making 100,000 M-4s. It will add 50 new jobs and employ nearly 1000 already. Chuckles Schumer did the victory lap for bringing that one home with his sidekick Kirstin Gildebran close at hand, a self professed NRA supporter. Both touted it as a victory for upstate ny at the same time they would deny me and you the right to own that same weapon without them?"
THIS A GOO EXAMPLE FOR GOOSE AND GANDER!

Every FTF member shod be emailing Remington TODAY. The M4 contract represents weapons that Remingtons own employees CAN NOT own in the state of NY.

A simple email from the thousands of posters to this blog notifying Remington that not only are WE not buying thier guns AND telling everyone we know to do same will have an impact.

Several thousand emails from across the country could very well result on a public announcement from Remington that there walking away from ^^THIS^^ contract.

80 some million might sound like a big number but it's peanuts compared to what sportsmen spend.

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Here at FTF, I occasionally see comments like "if you don't trust me with a gun, I don't trust you with a bagde." Or the constant lamentation of the ridiculous hoop to jump through and cost to legally obtain full auto guns and suppressors.

Goose and Gander is a policy I've promoted for a couple of years now. It came to me after reading the full page add Ronie Barret took out in major CA newspapers following the Govonator signing into CA State law, a ban on civilian ownership of the .50 BMG rifle.

In short, Barret told all State and Federal LEO's that Federal law prevented him from knowingly doing business with criminals and since the ban was unconstitutional, the State Government of CA and any Federal Authorities within CA's borders were now criminal organization and as such could no longer receive sales or service from Barret Firearms Manufacturing. He also advised them that if they had property currently at Barret for service, they would need to come claim it, since he could not legally ship it back to them.

He then Promptly introduced the new Barret .419 cartridge that shoots farther and flatter than any .50 BMG so he could continue to serve his Barret enthusiasts within that state.

Barrets reaction to idiot legislators is exactly what the gun culture needs to survive. If civilian sportsman could not have his guns, then neither could cops. We should all applaud his conviction and support his products.

Those old enough to remember the Clinton years when the administration promised to shield manufacturers from frivolous lawsuits in exchange for industry self imposing regulations that the libtards could not get passed in congress should recall that Smith & Wesson, then owned by British holding company Tompkins Limited, was the only gun maker foolish enough to accept this false promise of safety and paid a heavy price. Distributors immediately dropped thier orders for S&W product and within 6 months Tompkings was forced to sell Smith & Wesson to Safety Lock, an American firm out of Texas, putting this Vaunted name in American manufacturing back in American hands.

What do the examples of Barret and S&W prove? They prove that manufacturers who understand where thier bread is buttered WILL back civilian gun owners over Government interests if they are interested in staying in business.

The Second Ammendment was not penned to protect our right to "sporting arms" or our right to hunt. It was written by men who had put their own treasure on the line and risked their lives to throw off the tyrants yoke. It was written to ensure that Americans would always retain the power to throw off this same yoke should they ever find themselves subjugated by a future Government.

This is why we must, each of us as individuals, cease doing business with firms that offer one level of performance to Government forces and another "less effective" level of performance to civilians.

No Government contract is worth loosing civilian sales, not when the split is 20/80 Govt dollars to civilian dollars.

If you live in CA and can only buy a Glock with the unnecessary safety switch, yet your local cop can have the real thing, then not only should you not be buying Glock, you should be writing old Gaston and telling his why! Pretty soon Cops would be shocked to learn that Glock would ONLY sell CA approved guns within the state be the customer civilian or LEO!

If you live in New York and can only have an AR with the gay ass fixed magazine, you should find out which AR company supplies your local LEO's and let write that builder, letting him know why you've decided to built your own rather than buying one of his complete rifles.

How long do we thing these laws would last if Cops were limited to 10 round mags because manufacturers would not sell them the Hi Caps? How long would these laws last if Cops could only get AR's with fixed magazines because that's all manufacturers would sell them?

How long would full auto prices start at 10k per rifle when the Army
And Marine Corp oppened new cases of M4's that were Semi
Auto only?

I'm guessing not very long...

Research your local gun laws, learn which companies are supplying cops with a level of performance that you, the lowly serf, can not own, AND WRITE THEM. guarantee we will see dozens of firms following Barrets example and refusing to do business with the criminal organizations that madquerade as our Government.

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THIS A GOO EXAMPLE FOR GOOSE AND GANDER!

Every FTF member shod be emailing Remington TODAY. The M4 contract represents weapons that Remingtons own employees CAN NOT own in the state of NY.

A simple email from the thousands of posters to this blog notifying Remington that not only are WE not buying thier guns AND telling everyone we know to do same will have an impact.

Several thousand emails from across the country could very well result on a public announcement from Remington that there walking away from ^^THIS^^ contract.

80 some million might sound like a big number but it's peanuts compared to what sportsmen spend.

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I actually just put a letter in the mailbox to Remington thanking them for this: http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-26/news/31241918_1_microstamping-cuomo-spokesman-josh-vlasto-gun-safety-law

Should I take it out of the box?
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I actually just put a letter in the mailbox to Remington thanking them for this: http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-26/news/31241918_1_microstamping-cuomo-spokesman-josh-vlasto-gun-safety-law

Should I take it out of the box?
No...just write them another. Praise is ok for fighting microstamping but it does not negate violations of Goose and Gander.

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I actually just put a letter in the mailbox to Remington thanking them for this: http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-26/news/31241918_1_microstamping-cuomo-spokesman-josh-vlasto-gun-safety-law

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I read the article and would be interested to know what ballistic identification rules have been enacted in CA? I live in CA and I am not aware of any such rules.
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