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Tackleberry1 05-02-2010 06:03 PM

Good for the Goose, Good for the Gander
 
How many of you are aware of the decision by Ronnie Barrett to cease all sales and service of his .50 BMG rifles to ANY state or federal LEO's in CA after the Governator signed the ban on civilain purchase of .50 BMG rifles within the state?

I don't know that any 1 or ever 2 manufactures refusing to do business with a state would have any impact on it's politics but I'm sure if ALL manufacturers followed suit, it would. This will never happen by the free will of most manufacturers but could be FORCED if the gun buying public were to say, boycott any .50 BMG rifles makers who stepping in to pick up the LEO contracts that Berrett walked away from.

CA may have the largest LEO budget in the country but even that spending power is peanuts compared to the dollars spent by American sportsmen.

I'd like to know:

A: Which sidearems are purchased by CA LEO's and:
B: If any of them are illegal for civilain purchase in the state?

We could have a tremendous impact on CA LEO's ability to replace or get replacement parts to there armorers through an effective letter campain and a willingness to NATIONALY refuse to buy products sold to CA LEO's "IF" CA Civilians are prohited from owning the same guns.

I call this the new NATIONAL-GOOD FOR THE GOOSE/GOOD FOR THE GANDER POLICY, and think it's hight time it got launched from right here at Firearmstalk.com.

Most Cop know full well that NO law will keep the thugs from getting and using the best hardward they can. If we can force CA LEO's to rely on the same "limited capacity" being forced on law abiding civilians, I'm certain we'd see LEO unions posting votes of "No Confidence" in any police chief who stood next to a politcian durring the next speech on more gun control.

TACK

spittinfire 05-02-2010 07:03 PM

That's a bold statement but unfortunately Barrett makes up only a small percentage of the firearms market. Most people can't afford, don't have a place to shoot it or simply aren't interested in a 50 BMG. I'm glad to see someone stepping up and making a stand though.

Think if Springfield did it with their XD line or any/all other manufacturer who makes a semi auto with more then 10rd capacity, you might have a large enough statement to get some attention. CA would probably love it and start bragging about how effective their gun laws are....bunch of libtards.

BillM 05-02-2010 09:37 PM

Ronnie Barrett isn't the only one that's had it with California. Companies are
moving OUT--Barsto barrels and Petersen publications are a couple I know about.

California is going to drive itself over the edge soon, if it hasn't already done so. Bright Point---at least some of the DMV people will have jobs for a while,
figuring out how to say "We're Closed" in as many languages as they have
for the drivers license test.

"Besides English, the basic Class C written driver license exam is also available in the following languages:
Amharic, Arabic, Armenian, Cambodian, Chinese, Croatian, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Hmong, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Laotian, Persian/Farsi, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Romanian, Russian, Samoan, Spanish, Tagalog/Filipino, Thai, Tongan, Turkish, and Vietnamese."

CA357 05-03-2010 12:02 AM

In CA, LEO's can buy any firearm they want. They can also have any capacity magazine they want.

We civilians are limited to a handgun list of "approved'' firearms and can only have 10 round magazines.

Good for the goose and good for the gander would make the socialist libtard politicians heads spin and hurl pea soup.

pandamonium 05-03-2010 03:53 AM

Tack, I am sure it would be quite an extensive list once you count all the different sherrif, local departments and the like. I'm sure that most of the spectrum of manufacturers are covered. To boycott or stop purchasing from all companies that supply firearms to Califonia PD's would probably mean very few makers left to choose from. Now I do like the idea of bombarding the makers that supply Ca. PD's with letters and e-mails, that might get thier attention. It would be pretty difficult to come up with a complete list though.
Also, some of these makers may be under contract with the PD's so they may not be able to work on the side of right, and as they are a business, the dollar is the bottom line. I'm willing to send letters and e-mails if we can come up with a list. I have no hope that something like this would work here in jersey,commie state that it is.

pandamonium 05-03-2010 04:44 AM

After thinking about this some more, it realy pisses me off that any government, be it local, state or federal, should feel the need to be able to or have the need to, out-gun the law abiding citizens of thier jurisdiction. When will they understand that it isn't those that obey the laws that they get into fire-fights with. Seeing the words "for law enforcement/ government use only" rings of tyrany to my ears. Nuff said.

AcidFlashGordon 05-03-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillM (Post 279530)
California is going to drive itself over the edge soon, if it hasn't already done so. Bright Point---at least some of the DMV people will have jobs for a while,
figuring out how to say "We're Closed" in as many languages as they have
for the drivers license test.

"Besides English, the basic Class C written driver license exam is also available in the following languages:
Amharic, Arabic, Armenian, Cambodian, Chinese, Croatian, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Hmong, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Laotian, Persian/Farsi, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Romanian, Russian, Samoan, Spanish, Tagalog/Filipino, Thai, Tongan, Turkish, and Vietnamese."

Holy Crap! I knew the People's Republik of Kalifornia printed their state documents in several different languages but not that many. No wonder they're going bankrupt.

As for all the anti-gun legislation there, I'm sure that sooner or later it will rebound on them. The "microstamping" legislation the Governator signed was just one of the idiot bills. So far, it hasn't been enacted but if it's pushed, I'm sure there will be a lot of kalifornicator LEOs finding themselves having to pay more to get an out-of-state gun and ammo because ammo and gun manufacturers won't go along with the microstamping B.S.

Tackleberry1 05-03-2010 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=pandamonium;279699]Tack, I am sure it would be quite an extensive list once you count all the different sherrif, local departments and the like.

I agree the list of CA LEO sidearms is extensive which is why I propose targeting the two largest agencies, CHP and LAPD.

The budgets of these two departments has got to be 30% to 40% of CA overall LE expendetures.

I'll start the research and would appreciate any input you CA gentelmen may have. I'll also post a form letter in the next few days.

My thought is that members here could evaluated the issue and decide for themselves if they wish to participate. The form letter will make it very easy to either "print and send" or at a minimum provide a guidline for those wishing to pen there own complaint.

TACK

pandamonium 05-03-2010 03:12 PM

Sounds good Bro, I'll be keepin my eye out for the letter, you gonna put it in this thread or start another, just so I know where to look. Ya know this thread kinda almost sorta goes along with the "is the NRA your friend " thread. Seems to me that we need to ALL OF US GUN OWNERS become MUCH more PROACTIVE in defending our 2A rights! I like to sit on my butt and complain as much as the next guy, sometimes more, but it doesn't really get anything done, thanks for some motivation! Next we gotta work on New Jersey!! :cool:

CA357 05-03-2010 03:25 PM

I'm a member of the Calguns Foundation. They are very active protecting 2A rights for Californians. Here's a link to the home page: Calgunsfoundation.org Home Page


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