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Old 03-16-2014, 03:08 AM   #41
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I am not one of the, as you put it, 'sheepeople'. Did you coin that term? Or are you following some self-appointed Pied Piper in using it?

I do understand. Probably much better than you can imagine. I do see some utility in engaging in public protest, even ones that might get me arrested. But I would not risk a felony unless I could afford a platoon of attorneys and the time to fight such a case all the way to the Supreme Court. Transferring guns illegally but without telling anybody of the act is a useless protest IMO. So was Adam Kokesh's act of defiance when he loaded a shotgun in Washington DC last 4th of July. He is tilting at windmills, just as you are doing by your silent protests.

Postin it on a gun forum that is undoubtedly monitored by many different government agencies is unwise. Could land you in jail. I hope it does not happen, but unless it does your efforts are wasted on everybody but yourself (and perhaps the people who receeve your generous gifts.)
We have nothing to discuss. Have a nice day.
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Nice of you to concede.
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I have a question. When someone asks for legal advise here, everybody says something to the effect of "free advise is worth what you pay for it", "or ask a lawyer," or "I'm not a lawyer", etc. Now, I ask, ARE there any lawyers here? More specific, are there any lawyers who know gun laws? On this thread, we have people arguing that something is illegal, and other people saying that same something is legal. (Transferring from state to state with no FFL, if both the states allow FTF transfers, and the receiver is allowed to receive a gun.) This is why I find a lot of gun law stuff confusing. No one knows, but everybody has an opinion. We should get some definitive answers from an actual lawyer on the federal end of it, and make it a sticky. It'd be nice doing the same thing on a state level, but it might be hard getting a lawyer from each state to do it. I do know there is at least one very good gun lawyer in NH.

Vikingdad, I not only find your living arrangement moral, (or at the very least make no judgement either way), I think it's pretty smart....everybody should "Test Drive" the person they may or may not marry.
many times on legal questions it's difficult to give an exact answer as to what's legal in my state to do, may or may not be legal in your state. many times the laws as they are written can be confusing to someone without law degree. this is why many times the best advice is to seek out legal counsel from someone that understands the law.
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many times on legal questions it's difficult to give an exact answer as to what's legal in my state to do, may or may not be legal in your state. many times the laws as they are written can be confusing to someone without law degree. this is why many times the best advice is to seek out legal counsel from someone that understands the law.

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many times on legal questions it's difficult to give an exact answer as to what's legal in my state to do, may or may not be legal in your state. many times the laws as they are written can be confusing to someone without law degree. this is why many times the best advice is to seek out legal counsel from someone that understands the law.
I would say to only seek legal advice upon which you can rely on from someone who practices law in your state and is familiar with the Second Amendment and firearms as well as the BATFE and your state DOJ. It is just too important.
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Well, that's why in my last post, I suggested getting an actual lawyer, and getting clarification on FEDERAL laws. The hard part would be getting a lawyer from each state to chime in on their state's laws. Did no one read the last part of my post?

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What, if anything, can you guys tell me about lending a firearm to a family member in another state?

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I may or may not have given/gifted/loaned/willed a 22 rifle or similar caliber to my daughter and son in law the last time they came to visit. If I did do such a thing, it would have been such as parents and grandparents have done for generations; passing down heirlooms. And if I would have ever done such a thing, it would have been with no second thought to there ever being such a law regulating an act such as described. I always thought laws were made to define a crime not create one. Go and figure.

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And I think we are done here.

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