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Old 05-12-2013, 10:45 PM   #21
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I moved to Germany in the early eighties and spent most my life over here. I am 42 now. Seen lots of changes with the fall of the wall and reunification. I think West Germany was a better place to live then the unified Germany. We had to deal with the Red Army Faction, but I felt very safe over here. Crime is and was extremely low, although it is starting to get worse due to Eastern Europeans. Many West Germans wish the wall was still up.
How difficult would it be to live and work in Germany if you only speak English?
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i believe this because it came straight form the mouths of people who live there. you should have seen the looks on their faces when i took them to an academy.....




interesting. thanks for posting. but is the data saying US only has 88 guns per 100 thou residents? that seems way off to me...but, i'm from texas....i think guns per 100 thou here is about 99 thou....lmao! almost everyone i know has 1 or more gun.

i thought everyone put privately owned guns in america at around 200-300 million?
I'd say its harder to own a car for road use than guns here. Renewing my certificate every several years is not difficult at all. Unless your a convicted criminal, can't be bothered buying safe storage cabinets, or can't show you have somewhere to shoot then its not hard at all.

I think most people have no clue that they can own certain firearms legally here, I posted a pic of one of my bolt rifles on a non-shooting related forum and they were mostly amazed. People think you can only own air rifles and crossbows just because that's all you can buy off a shop shelf.

Not that I would support licencing in the US, because at least in the short term it wouldn't work and in the long term would certainly be abused by your authorities.
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So much of the reporting (and criticism) of gun homicides in the US ignores the fact that the homicides take place in very specific areas; they are not widely distributed. One source says that most of the homicides take place in cities with populations above 250,000. And in those cities the murders are done in only certain parts of the city. (Think about the south side of Chicago.) In an opinion piece in the The New York Times, David Brooks cites a 30 year study of gun homicides in Boston. There 75% of the gun homicides took place in an area equal to 4.5 % of the land area of Boston. Another 88% had no homicides at all. So, most of the country is quite peaceful, but there some places to be avoided.

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I'd say its harder to own a car for road use than guns here. Renewing my certificate every several years is not difficult at all. Unless your a convicted criminal, can't be bothered buying safe storage cabinets, or can't show you have somewhere to shoot then its not hard at all.

I think most people have no clue that they can own certain firearms legally here, I posted a pic of one of my bolt rifles on a non-shooting related forum and they were mostly amazed. People think you can only own air rifles and crossbows just because that's all you can buy off a shop shelf.

Not that I would support licencing in the US, because at least in the short term it wouldn't work and in the long term would certainly be abused by your authorities.
oh, i know people own guns in europe, i just got the impression from the german friends i knew, that it was somewhat difficult & not very common. but as someone said, that may be more related to interests than availability. and my friends in germany may just be disinterested & uninformed on guns in general.

i still want someone to explain those stats to me, though. 88 guns per 100,000 people in america? that simply can't be correct, did i misunderstand the data? i know a gun store that claims to have sold 10,000 guns a month since obama was re elected.
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How difficult would it be to live and work in Germany if you only speak English?
i'm no expert, but i think not very difficult. everyone i know from germany has at least a basic amount of english. i'm not saying everyone in germany speaks english, but it is pretty common i think. of course the friends i have in germany are very well educated.

that being said, probably always better to learn the native language.
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The Polizie dont handle criminals with Kid Gloves, own all the guns you want but when you break the law, they arent anything you want to mess with.

Anyone who spent time in W Germany before the Wall fell knows why they are so highly armed. The eastern border was 100% dangerous, The Czechs and East Germans were nothing to sneeze at, within 10 minutes of the SHTF, the 1K zone would have been like the western front; if the Rads werent highly armed, the french would be readying to surrender yet again...
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The Polizei were some saucy "sum beaches..." Driving around in those little green and white cars were nothing but rolling cans of German whoop ass.....
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How difficult would it be to live and work in Germany if you only speak English?
It is possible, but quality of life would be minimal. Lots of Americans live over here without speaking German, but they work as Federal employees on US military installations. Look at usajobs.com (gov?) to apply for a job.
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America has thousands of miles of isolated deserts on our Southern Border. Just below that line is the largest concentration of poverty racked socialist countries. The crime rate is directly related to the 12 million illegal interlopers into American society.

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Hi all!

Don't bother to move to Germany!

Gun laws are really strict, comparable to the new CT regulation, this means:
- Government permit for handguns, rifles, shotguns (with the exception of low-powered airguns/.177 caliber, 7.5 Joule or lower bullet energy).

- Needs based legislation (ONLY for competition shooting, hunting, collecting).

- Sell the guns if you quit your hobby (mentioned above).
- Self defense is no good reason (except for some off-duty police officers).

- Permit to own is not permit to carry, very few cary permits (for politicans, upper class people).

- Mandatory storage laws with a "right to visit" clause.

- All transfers have to go through a government controlled process.

- Lending guns to a buddy is very complicated.

- Partial magazine cap limit.

- Political movement to forbid private possession of so called "sault rifles".

- Political movement to forbid private possession of anything larger than .22 lr.

- All legal guns are registered since 1972, when the new very restrictive "Waffenrecht" was enacted.

Well, having said all this there is still one thing to mention.
Germany has 5,5 Million legally owned guns, but experts think that there are about 30-35 Million "illegal" (unregistered) guns in circulation.

Despite of this, gun crime is very low, with the exception of the well known shool shottings which could NOT be prevented by the existing legislation.

Sum it up,
gun-control is NOT about guns, it is about control!

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Im about Half German but that mattered not when I was in the Werner Family Deutches homeland; they like their neighbors as pure as their beer.

I dont think living in Germany without speaking German unless your a GI would be much fun. Firstly, you would feel so darned much like an outsider; Secondly, unless things have changed, The Rads really didnt like Americans all that much to begin with, not speaking their language only means you wont know when they are cursing you, "Fick Du Bizy Blut Swantzekoft" (I know Jeager, my spelling sucks)!. Thirdly, almost all of them speak English but few will let you know unless you try German first, learn to speak it even a little and you will find they are more receptive.

Germany isnt America, they are two very different Countries with very different Mindsets. They consider us rogues and cowboys and we have a tough time not seeing them as the authors of 2 World Wars. In the 80's, they still had signs on many of the local Gasthouses like "Nix Americaners" and "Nix Schwartz Americaners". Most didnt want their daughters to date us and Marriage could cost a Rad Woman her German Family ties.

I never got to see the Two Germanys United, I cant imagine the combination of Stoic Northerners, Bavarian Southerners and an entire population of Communists.

Question, Anyone out there still have their SMLM Card? Sadly I tossed all that stuff when I PCS'ed...

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