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Old 09-30-2013, 12:03 AM   #31
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Do you think the fact that when someone, individually or collectively, who does step up and take a stand and try to right some of the many wrongs are ruthlessly (and in many cases illegally) attacked by the progressives, who by the way control the narrative, might have something to do with the reluctance to 'get involved'?
The ones who get attacked the most, are probably Democrat legislators from the southern "gun rack democrat" states. They can play house with their lefty-liberal buddies on every issue except guns...They know a wrong move on that..and the voters back home will send bubba, with the flatbed to move their sorry a55 out of their cushy Capitol Bldg office..........
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Do you think the fact that when someone, individually or collectively, who does step up and take a stand and try to right some of the many wrongs are ruthlessly (and in many cases illegally) attacked by the progressives, who by the way control the narrative, might have something to do with the reluctance to 'get involved'?
No... we must be willing to stand anyway. If we go down under attack, then so be it... At least we don't go down without a fighting voice. Shrinking from the attack is not optional.

A day is coming - and wiil come - when those who now think they control all will beg for mercy and find none.
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No... we must be willing to stand anyway. If we go down under attack, then so be it... At least we don't go down without a fighting voice. Shrinking from the attack is not optional.

A day is coming - and wiil come - when those who now think they control all will beg for mercy and find none.
History has shown, that you can only flick the balls of the elephant a certain amount of times before you get stepped on.

Democracies, through out history, fail because the majority always wind up oppressing the minority. This country was founded as a hybrid democracy/republic...house/senate respectively.

Quietly, in the night so to speak, the republic part of our government was done great harm when the 17th amendment was passed. Senators used to be appointed by state legislatures to do the states business...when they became elected by the majority, the state's business was secondary. Unfunded mandates like Obamacare would not have been passed in the pre-17th amendment world.

So few people in the world that I know of see it this way...I have only heard one reference to this on TV(fox news incidentally).

My blood pressure rises when I hear people talk of the democracy the US is...it was not founded that way...the majority will always wind up oppressing the minority. The Supreme Court was to be the protector of the minority...it is no longer and I am just waiting for the elephant to get tired of having his balls flicked
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History has shown, that you can only flick the balls of the elephant a certain amount of times before you get stepped on.

Democracies, through out history, fail because the majority always wind up oppressing the minority. This country was founded as a hybrid democracy/republic...house/senate respectively.

Quietly, in the night so to speak, the republic part of our government was done great harm when the 17th amendment was passed. Senators used to be appointed by state legislatures to do the states business...when they became elected by the majority, the state's business was secondary. Unfunded mandates like Obamacare would not have been passed in the pre-17th amendment world.

So few people in the world that I know of see it this way...I have only heard one reference to this on TV(fox news incidentally).

My blood pressure rises when I hear people talk of the democracy the US is...it was not founded that way...the majority will always wind up oppressing the minority. The Supreme Court was to be the protector of the minority...it is no longer and I am just waiting for the elephant to get tired of having his balls flicked
Add to that the 16th Amendment as well (the income tax for those who are familiar with this). You are the first one, other than myself, to point this out. Thank you. There was a reason Senators were appointed by the state legislators, it is called 'checks and balances' and the progressives really upset the apple cart with the 17th Amendment!
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Again, I ask "What Federal laws have restricted your gun rights since Obama has been elected." You deal in paranoia, not facts.

The 25% sure did good electing a Democratic President and Senate, I guess the conservatives all stayed home that day.....Or, low and behold, the moderates voted for a Kenyan. Next election we may just throw the Tea back into Boston Harbor as well.

I guess you will probably be old enough to vote in the next election so go do your part.
You want facts? Had it not been for CONSERVATIVES, Obama in the other Libturds would have passed the assault weapons ban, the high capacity mag ban, and the universal background check laws.

You didn't answer my question the other day. If someone tries to murder someone but fails, do you just let them go, or do you arrest them for attempted murder?

Obama may have failed, but that doesn't mean he didn't try.

The next election? Even die hard dems are getting tired of Obama's BS. Your on the losing side now.

BTW, I am old enough to vote. I voted against the POS in chief.
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Arnold Toynbee quotes:

"Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder."

"Civilizations in decline are consistently characterised by a tendency towards standardization and uniformity."

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Again, I ask "What Federal laws have restricted your gun rights since Obama has been elected." You deal in paranoia, not facts.

The 25% sure did good electing a Democratic President and Senate, I guess the conservatives all stayed home that day.....Or, low and behold, the moderates voted for a Kenyan. Next election we may just throw the Tea back into Boston Harbor as well.

I guess you will probably be old enough to vote in the next election so go do your part.
Unlike you and your people, there are some people that still believe in the Constitution and civil liberties. Libertarianism and Constitutionalism are spreading like a wild fire, and it's heading towards Washington. The elitist aristocracy has oppressed the people, and the people have had enough. All tyrants fall eventually, and what the elitist liberals don't seem to understand is that it only takes one; it only takes one person to change the world, to cripple the establishment, it only takes one person to bring the most powerful man of this world to his knees. All people are created equal, and all people are equal, because in the end, all people are judged by God just the same. This era of tyranny is coming to an end, because the tyrants have presented themselves as being able to tell us what to do and therefore being greater than us, but they are not and the people have started to realize this and that no one has the right to tell us what to except those that are greater than us, and not one person has the right to tell us what to do because all people are equal because we are all created by God, and therefore only God can tell us what to do.

Chainfire, I want to know if you agree with obama on these issues:

Did you agree with obama when he basically tried to repeal the Second Amendment?

How about when he sent thousands of our young men and woman to die in Afghanistan, even though the war would only make America less safe?

How about obamacare, do you support his effort to turn America into a socialist nanny state?

How about Fast and Furious and the operations that supplied drug cartels with guns that ended with the death of many innocent Mexican people and a U.S border patrol agent? And how about the fact that he hasn't allowed any investigation of it, nor has he allowed eric holder to be questioned, and nobody has been held accountable?

What did you think about the NSA and the spying on American citizens without receiving the warrants or going through the due process that is required in the Constitution? Do you agree with him on the nullification of our Constitutional rights in the form of spying on us?

How about the execution of American citizens without due process or a trial?

Do you agree with him on the increased deficit spending, government waste, foreign aid, stealing of taxpayer money, and use of taxpayer money on himself? Were you happy with him when spent one hundred million dollars on a vacation to Africa?

Please let us know if you agree with him on these issues.
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Great questions, FullAuto, but I doubt Chain will answer them. He tends to hide from anything he can't copy and paste from an MSNBC news cast.

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Arnold Toynbee quotes:

"Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder."

"Civilizations in decline are consistently characterised by a tendency towards standardization and uniformity."

The Tower of Babel...brick or stones...one language or many languages of the people. Bible stories are history stories. I agree completely and remember being taught lessons of diversity and individualism as a youngster. Standardization and uniformity is the mantra and philosophy of communism and socialism...America showed how wrong those philosophies were; if only we (the majority) could remember the lesson without having to learn the hard way
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Great questions, FullAuto, but I doubt Chain will answer them. He tends to hide from anything he can't copy and paste from an MSNBC news cast.
If you ask most of these types why they believe what they believe they won't answer you. Most liberals and neo-conservatives have no basis for why they believe in these authoritarian and pro-war principals. I, like the most of y'all, have a reason for all my beliefs. As a pretty extreme Libertarian, most people disagree with me on certain issues, but I have a reason why I believe what I believe. I thought out all my beliefs on my own, none of my beliefs were indoctrinated in me. I stay true to my beliefs and do not easily change them like some do. All my political beliefs come from 4 principles: freedom, peace, the Constitution, and tolerance. People like Chainfire are easily influenced by lies and propaganda, they have no reasoning for their beliefs but they refuse to listen to the reasoning and logic of others.
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