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Soliferrum 02-25-2012 01:35 PM

Firearm Chain Store Snitching?
 
So after moving to Texas, i am thoroughly and incredibly disappointed in the firearm atmosphere. I moved from Ohio and they seemed more pro gun than this state. Up in the OH i had no problem finding a firearm of my choosing, within 10 miles of my location at any given time. So now that i am stranded in a state that seemed to bolster its own reputation to the rest of the country, my options have been dramatically reduced to nothing.

Now i have to go and find guns at the last place i really wanted to. Chain sport stores.

My question is, do these sport stores i.e. Academy, Gander Mountain, make you register your firearm when you purchase it? i know about the background paper and sh*t i have to do for their records. Furthermore, if things were to go south how concerned should i be that that sheet i filled out would be handed over without a second thought if the government asked for it?

i know texas would give the fed the finger if they demanded gun registration and confiscation, but gander and academy isnt texas, so im worred how limp wristed these places would be. Id go in and ask them myself, but the 21 yo college doofus that works the counter told me an ar-15 isnt lethal or accurate out to 500 yrds. so yea, pointless waste of time there.

As always, thanks for your wise counsel oh great FTF.

Gatoragn 02-25-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Soliferrum (Post 719878)
My question is, do these sport stores i.e. Academy, Gander Mountain, make you register your firearm when you purchase it? i know about the background paper and sh*t i have to do for their records. Furthermore, if things were to go south how concerned should i be that that sheet i filled out would be handed over without a second thought if the government asked for it?

Would a licensed gun dealer share their sales records with duly appointed LEO's? I am confident the answer to that is yes if said dealer wishes to stay in business and out of jail.

There is currently no federal registry of guns and I am pretty sure TX has yet to go down that road.

Find a local FFL that charges $25 or less for transfers and enjoy life in the Republic of Tejas.:cool:

ScottA 02-25-2012 01:52 PM

I wouldn't bat an eye about bypassing the big chains at all. Go with Gator's advice. I think Gallery of Guns has an FFL search tool.

downsouth 02-25-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottA
I wouldn't bat an eye about bypassing the big chains at all. Go with Gator's advice. I think Gallery of Guns has an FFL search tool.

Sounds like there is a market for lgs in your area. Have you thought about becoming a business man?

ScottA 02-25-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by downsouth (Post 719893)
Sounds like there is a market for lgs in your area. Have you thought about becoming a business man?

Now that's an even better idea.

Soliferrum 02-25-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottA (Post 719889)
I wouldn't bat an eye about bypassing the big chains at all. Go with Gator's advice. I think Gallery of Guns has an FFL search tool.

10-4. i cant believe i actually have to wait for a weapon...in Texas. Dont be fooled north people, its not as bad ass as the TV says it is.

robocop10mm 02-25-2012 08:03 PM

???? They make you "register" your gun? They are FFL dealers and are required to process the transfer paperwork like any LGS. I think Academy has a new electronic 4473, but it is no different than putting pen to paper. How do youy have to "wait" for a weapon? You go in, pick it out, fill out the form, they call in the NICS information and you pay. How is that "wait" any longer that Ohio?

wjnfirearms 02-25-2012 08:34 PM

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying is happening down there in the Lone Star. I'm also not sure if a retailer making you register is even legal, much less appropriate. I have a friend outside of Fort Worth, a retired cop and gun enthusiast, and he has never mentioned anything like you are telling us. Maybe I'm not clear on what the problem is. I can be a bit dense on occassion, especially like now when I've just awoke after working graveyard and only having one cup of coffee so far.

If you are that disgruntled, do the internet thing or get with any of us here that are dealers and we will help for sure.

And, you are correct. the E-Form 4473 is just another medium of "paperwork", no more.

Axxe55 02-25-2012 08:47 PM

i am in Texas myself and i am having a hard time understanding this wait thing also. i buy quite often and the longest i have ever waited was about 15 minutes for the background check. i fiil out the 4473 form, just like you have to anywhere, regardless of what state you are in, they call and verify the background check, i pay for my firearms, then i leave with them. there isn't any registration that i know of, nor have i ever registered any of my firearms. my LGS has not a problem with ordering me something he doesn't stock or is something out of the ordinary. i guess i'm not understanding your problem, but i definately stay away from the chain stores. everytime i go in one, i feel i have been robbed when i leave!

c3shooter 02-25-2012 09:30 PM

Soliferrum- with the exception of Class III firearms (such as machineguns) there is no mechanism to "register" a gun with the Federal Govt. How would a chain store require that you register a gun? With who? There is simply no agency to do that WITH.

ANY dealer is required to maintain at his premises a record of the sale of firearms. This is done thru a Form 4473, which the dealer maintains on his premises for 20 years. There IS a provision that permits law enforcement, through the BATFE, to trace a firearm for purposes of a criminal investigation. I have a good sized LGS where I hang out- they get about 2 such requests a year. Example- a 17 year old tries to rob a store, gets shot. Has a Colt pistol. ATF goes to Colt, says "Where did it go?" Colt says "Shipped to Joe's Guns, Mineral Wells TX, Oct 1998. ATF goes to Joe's, asks "Where did it go?" Joe reports sold to C3Shooter, Dec 1998. ATF contatcs C3, who sold it to his neighbor, Soliferrum, July 2006. ATF asks Soliferrum- where did it go? Soliferrum refers them to police report of burglary on his home, 3 months ago, when some scumbag stole his Colt.


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