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Old 02-02-2012, 08:49 PM   #41
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yeah what trip said. You dont even have to use his real name. Say that you just met the guy...or turn his lyin ass in .whatever

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Old 02-02-2012, 08:50 PM   #42
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Personally I'd just drop the dime on him, I can't stand a liar.

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Not to mention this friend is what gives the ccw community a bad rep. He's obviously a liar and irresponsible and shouldn't be carrying anyway. And a federal corrections officer? That can carry anywhere? Not very likely. Correct me if I'm wrong but they don't have much authority
You are wrong sir. I am a Federal Corrections Officer. Because of my arrest authority, even though it is very small and very specific, I am covered under the Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act (LEOSA). I can conceal carry anywhere in the United States, I still have to follow Federal and Local laws. Even when Chigaco was a ccw ban city I could have carried there. However, even I am not allowed to carry on any grade school because it is a Federal GFZ, however, if the state laws allow concealed carry at a college I could carry there. And I can do all of this without ever having any ccw licence/permit from any state.
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Absolutely FOS. Federal Corrections officers are not allowed to carry off duty, much less their family. Your "friend" has a mental disorder. Report him and distance yourself from him. I agree, he will go off in a spectaular fashion. You do not wnt to be any where near him when he does.

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Absolutely FOS. Federal Corrections officers are not allowed to carry off duty, much less their family. Your "friend" has a mental disorder. Report him and distance yourself from him. I agree, he will go off in a spectaular fashion. You do not wnt to be any where near him when he does.
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We dont have take home weapons however. The thing that really is bassackwards with it all is that it is against Federal law to have a firearm on prison grounds. When we are driving to work, and going home from work are the two most vulnerable times for us, because these are the two times we are wearing our uniforms. These are the two times most likely that former inmates or inmate friends and families will attempt to make a possible hit on an officer they have a beef with.

Im hoping that either through a change in federal law or a union master agreement that they install firearm lockers for officers carrying to and from work.

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Michigan, does your status as a Fed corrections officer extend a Concealed Carry permit to any people in your family under the age of 21?

I see that your attempting to set the record straight on what a federal corrections officer can and can't do, but that isn't even the point of this thread, and frankly, I don't know how it went in that direction.

The whole point of this thread is that the OP has a schoolmate, 20 years old, who is supposedly carrying on campus in a state that I presume (OP, set this straight for me) doesn't allow concealed carry on college campuses. This school mate claims that he has a special permit because his dad is a federal corrections officer.

So, Michigan, FACT or CRAP?

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Well I'm glad Michigan cleared up the ancillary issue, but I would like to know as well... does it make any sense that it would extend to a family member.

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Michigan, does your status as a Fed corrections officer extend a Concealed Carry permit to any people in your family under the age of 21?

I see that your attempting to set the record straight on what a federal corrections officer can and can't do, but that isn't even the point of this thread, and frankly, I don't know how it went in that direction.

The whole point of this thread is that the OP has a schoolmate, 20 years old, who is supposedly carrying on campus in a state that I presume (OP, set this straight for me) doesn't allow concealed carry on college campuses. This school mate claims that he has a special permit because his dad is a federal corrections officer.

So, Michigan, FACT or CRAP?
In Arkansas it is kind of a legal grey area for carrying on campus. The law states that CHCL holders may not carry at a college building or event(even an off campus event). So most just assume it means what it says that you can't carry in a building but can walk around outside with it. However that is irrelevant because the school reserves the right to expel any students carrying on school property.

In Arkansas your car is legally considered an extension of your person. This could be good or bad depending on the situation but this is bad for me since a gun in my car is legally the same as carryoing it on me.

This is why u kind of doubt the police found him with it as he claims. I would be inclined to believe that someone at the school would have found out about the incident and tried to expel him. It's kind of a liberal school

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Yeah, here in MS your vehicle is an extension of your home too, but the handgun laws here specifically state that vehicle carry (which is generally VERY relaxed here) is specifically prohibited on ANY educational property. This includes the parking lot.

In fact there is only one circumstance where vehicle carry is allowed on an educational property here, that is if you are dropping off or picking up a minor child, of whom you are the parent or legal guardian. The firearm doesn't leave the car, and the owner doesn't leave the firearm. Meaning both the gun and gun's owner stay in the vehicle. This applies to long arms too.

It also means that if my wife and I both were CCW permit holders, and my vehicle breaks down, she's not allowed to be armed if she has to drop me off at school. Weird.

As far as the carry laws apply to law enforcement personnel, I'm not a cop, so I didn't research those.

I've dissected the carry laws here word for word trying to find a legal way for me to be armed on campus, at least in my vehicle. I did in a way, there are no restrictions on tools such as crow bars and hammers. I still keep my ka-bar on hand, but it generally stays out of sight. Besides, it's not a weapon, it's a grooming tool, I do my nails with it.

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