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Old 04-14-2014, 02:23 PM   #11
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That Solar farm is 200 miles away from Bundy's ranch.
Bundy is really wasting a lot of resources. Cattle markets are at an all time in areas that are not affected by drought. If Bundy owns something beside feral scrub cattle they will bring a good price at sales in areas of TX that have recovered from the drought.

Compared to pastures here on the east coast the land that Bundy is fighting over is worth about $1 per acre for grazing. The land is not arable, even if Bundy put down 6" wells and a huge irrigation system.

One thing is for certain, a financially strapped business cannot fight a court case for 20 years and keep the doors open. I am sure many of the people that are joining the Bundy family in this fight were driven away from the small business that kept their family in the middle class by the federal government.

It is real easy to say that Bundy should have paid the federal government for the lease in 96. He might not have been able to pay the lease after the court battles and the droughts.

Clark county has been in some form of a drought for over 20 years. Las Vegas ran a tunnel from lake Mead at 20'. Now Las Vegas is digging another tunnel that will be able to literally drain lake Mead.

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Under the Taylor Grazing Act, a permit system was set up that granted grazing privileges, not rights. The grazing permit is a revocable license under the law, not creating any right, title, interest, or estate in or to the land. In the early 1990s the BLM revised Mr. Bundy’s, and other ranchers’, permits to protect the desert tortoise. Mr. Bundy did not like the revision and so he made, in my opinion, a catastrophic, knee-jerk mistake when he stopped paying his grazing fees in defiance. It was catastrophic because what he did the moment he stopped paying was remove all legal standing he had. He relinquished any claim he had to graze on public land. When he did that, the BLM rightfully canceled his permit and would not grant him anymore permits.

https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2014/04/06/letter-to-the-editor-bundy-forfeited-right-to-graze-cattle-counter-opinion-on-range-war/#.U0u_RdJDuSq
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Since the BLM backed off its collection efforts the EPA will overtax him and every other beef producer based on cow farts and methane. The plan to do just that is already in the works. They'll get Dingy Harry his solar farm and his chinese yuans for his effort in the process.
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I am glad to see so many people coming to his side.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
That's right! It started out like another Waco or Ruby Ridge. Isolate the victims (yes, victims), keep the media and on lookers miles away where no one can observe what is happening, then kill some / all of the victims "in the line of duty". Also the Fed Thugs manning the check points can bully and intimidate the protesters. Unfortunately for the Thugs this time there were ARMED citizens protesting LOUDLY at the check points that refused to be bullied and intimidated. The results? Thug bullies run away with their tails between their legs.

"No one needs guns to protect themselves against the government". Yeah, right.
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You better start looking to other sources than the liberal media.

Another BLM report entitled “Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone” (BLM Technical Note 444) reveals that Bundy’s land in question is within the “Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone and surrounding area” which is part of a broad U.S. Department of Energy program for “Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States” on land “managed” by BLM.

It is called a mitigation zone. The feds are allowing the Chinese to build a solar farm on public land. To offset the habitat impact of the solar farm the feds are trying to clear the land the Bundy family has been legally using for 140 years. They instituted a fee program to supposedly protect an endangered tortoise. They are euthanizing those tortoises in nearby areas. The whole fee system was to establish BLM authority over the land for bureaucratic reasons and any excuse is allowable. A lease can be terminated and the other ranchers grazing the area will find that out the hard way.

Since when is it legal for the feds to allow a foreign owned for profit business to occupy federal land at the expense of US Citizens?
Here is just one of many sources and articles on the subject. To call The Blaze "liberal media" would be a stretch even for you.

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Reid and his son, Rory, were both deeply involved in a deal with the Chinese-owned ENN Energy Group to build a $5 billion solar farm in Laughlin, Nevada. But that is roughly 177 miles away from Bundy’s 150-acre ranch in Bunkerville, Nev., and 213 miles from the federally owned Gold Butte area where Bundy ‘s cattle graze, according to Google Maps.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/13/is-harry-reid-involved-seven-answers-to-seven-questions-youre-probably-asking-right-now-about-the-nevada-rancher-situation/
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I know for a fact there has been an effort to move ranchers off public land in and near Clark county. It is crystal clear that Las Vegas has to find another source of water other than lake Mead. City fathers are looking to acquire farmlands to the north of Las Vegas to drill wells in order to create a new source of water for Las Vegas. There is a large aquifer north of Las Vegas. Clark county and Las Vegas intend to exploit this aquifer.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/topics/water/
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