Originally Posted by manta
You have no desire to debate with me I am open minded and willing to change my view if the evidence is put before me, evidence not internet gossip. Some people are that fixated on their view that rational debate is useless.
I don't suppose you have any idea how profoundly hypocritical that was, do you? An open-minded person would not have "a view" unless and until he had satisfied himself that he had all, or at least a lot, of the good evidence. You don't and yet, you do.
If and when that changes and you find yourself the happy owner of a mind that actually is open, I recommend that you find and download your free copy of "Unintended Consequences". After reading that book, I believe you will understand more than you do now. In all likelihood, your opinions will not change but you will be better informed - both historically and philosophically.
Good luck with it.