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Old 12-17-2011, 12:25 AM   #11
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Deleted. Read the defense appropriations bill.

The bill specifically states that military detention does not apply to US citizens and resident aliens.


http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867pcs/pdf/BILLS-112s1867pcs.pdf
Did you happen to read where they can declare a US citizen a terrorist?

Did you happen to see the other documents that identify a terrorist is someone with more than 7 days of food, OR MULTIPLE FIREARMS, OR EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF AMMO?
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The Judge (Judge Andrew Napolitano) talks about this with a couple representatives here-

Freedom Watch


Listen to what Congressman Justin Amash says about what we should do if this kind of stuff actually does happen.

He also says that the language in this bill is intentionally misleading........AND that they pulled a Nanny State Nancy/Obamacare:

they "have to pass the bill before they can find out whats in it......."

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Did you happen to read where they can declare a US citizen a terrorist?
Yep, they have been able to do that since the wonderful "patriot act" was passed many years ago. A US citizen can not be detained by the US Army.


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Show me.
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I'd like to see it too.

alsaqr,you should follow that link and watch that show,they only keep it there until the next week's episodes have aired.
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But a missile strike without even attempt to capture?
Get real man. How may US military special operations folks lives would you waste in an attempt to capture a terrorist puke who just happens to be a US citizen?


Josh, i like that cartoon.

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Get real man. How may US military special operations folks lives would you waste in an attempt to capture a terrorist puke who just happens to be a US citizen?
I also suggested letter of marque and reprisal,and the use of mercenaries.
In any case,the burden of obedience to the 5th amendment is on the US government and its employees.

Either we have a Constitution,or we don't.

There is no middle ground.
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Josh, i like that cartoon.
LOL,yeah its a good one.



seriously-
go watch that episode of freedom watch.
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I got another good picture too.

What with government thinking it can make everyone buy a product or pay a fine to be a "good citizen",suggestions of national ID,drones and billions of dollars being poured into a growing and federalized Dept of Homeland Stasi run Janet Napolitano police state,and now this topic's issue-

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I got another good picture too.

What with government thinking it can make everyone buy a product or pay a fine to be a "good citizen",suggestions of national ID,drones and billions of dollars being poured into a growing and federalized Dept of Homeland Stasi run Janet Napolitano police state,and now this topic's issue-

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Get real man. How may US military special operations folks lives would you waste in an attempt to capture a terrorist puke who just happens to be a US citizen?


Josh, i like that cartoon.
Well lets see, considering how many lives we have "wasted" in the attempt to capture Osama, a non-citizen, I'd say its rather shameful.
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Remember when military veterans and others who complained about the "patriot act" were called traitors by draft dodger Cheney? Americans were assured that law abiding folks had nothing to worry about. The slippery slope got much steeper and slicker with the passage of the "patriot act".

The grade is now about 60 degrees and slicker than snot on a door knob. It will only get worse as the two political parties in DC compete for the destruction of our Constitutional rights.
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