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Old 02-26-2014, 02:22 PM   #1
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Default Encouraging Word from Northern California Court

Thought I would share this with those in California if they were not aware.

Concealed Carry Upheld in California

The huge news out of California is the startling decision by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals that said California was, in effect, banning the carrying of guns for self defense in violation of the Second Amendment's guarantee to keep and bear arms. California requires that anyone applying for a concealed carry permit show "good cause," which then is judged by the local head of law enforcement. Often, this person or bureaucrat decides that you don't have "good cause" that's enough for you to get a permit. In reality, this has become a ban on concealed carry in many counties and cities, and the court's three-judge panel said, by a 2-1 vote, that this is contrary to the Supreme Court's decision in Heller. The "bear" part of "keep and bear" means to carry, so states must provide some way for people to carry guns for self protection.

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Old 02-26-2014, 02:26 PM   #2
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i am lucky because the county i live in is a shall issue county and has been saying self defense is a good reason.

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The federal 9th Circuit Court of Appeals declared the CA "may issue" law unconstitutional. The federal 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals ruled the putrid NJ "may issue" law constitutional. That circuit court split will have to be resolved by the US Supreme Court. That may happen this year since Drake vs Jerejian, the NJ Jersey case, is before SCOTUS as we speak.

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I believe that ninth district court only affected san diego all the other counties in california are as they were.
And my county it also is a shall issue.
sheriff wants to arm as many citizens as he can.

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I believe that ninth district court only affected san diego all the other counties in california are as they were.
And my county it also is a shall issue.
sheriff wants to arm as many citizens as he can.

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The 9th Circuit is the largest. Any ruling from the 9th affects every state within the 9th.
That would be MT, ID, OR, WA, NV, CA, AZ, HI AK and Guam.
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The next step would have been for Sheriff Gore to file for a rehearing of the "en banc" or full 9th circuit court.

On Feb, 21 he issued a statement that he will not be requesting an "en banc" review. Which for now means that the ruling stands. Any of the 27+ judges within the 9th can still request an "en banc" full court hearing. They have until Mach 6th to do so.

Nothing will happen until then.

CA Attorney General Harris has stated that she will request a "en banc" review.
Problem for her is that she has no dog in this fight and cannot request such a review. Only the Plaintiff, the Defendant or a Judge within the 9th can make this request. CA was not named in the Law Suit so she is Out-of-the-Loop.

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I was just going by there's another thread that we already have started on this on this forum and people were talking about it only affected San Diego and San Diego's only one worded.
But any news is good news for california

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I was just going by there's another thread that we already have started on this on this forum and people were talking about it only affected San Diego and San Diego's only one worded.
But any news is good news for california

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Hawaii is also a "May Issue" State within the 9th, that must comply if this ruling stands.
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Rhode island is a may issue state as well. Nearly impossible to get a carry permit here.

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List of counties that are shall issue in California.

http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/counties.html

Here's Sacramento county requirements, the county I live in.

http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/counties/sacramento.html

The city of Sacramento is a may issue city and is not part of the county

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